In fairness to TR, it was only a couple of years ago that the platform was 100% indoors. So it’s not that far fetched to have less-than-perfect integration of outdoor rides in the beta 
I would guess there’s still a sizable share of TR athletes that train mainly indoors (probably not huge, but not miniscule either)
How many Watts is 7% then?
Looks like you already have your answer anyway above.
24 at threshold. Plenty enough to make a difference. I think maybe I might have to give up on AT.
But that’s exactly what you have done by signing up for the “Adaptive Training Closed Beta”. It is an optional sign up. You can still use TR just like people have for years while others test AT until it is fully released. They only have like 80ish employees right? They kinda need to employ their consumers as testers or else it would take 3 years for all of the bugs to pop up and that’s why they make it an optional sign up. This is totally different than releasing a buggy product like you insinuate Garmin did.
When you input your email it is right below a banner that says “Register for Updates and Priority Access to the Closed Beta”. I think most people just don’t understand what that means and think it means “Hey sweet I’ll get early access to the feature”.
Yes I think TR jumped the gun a bit with the big announcement and maybe they thought that the feature was more fully fledged than it is. But this is what happens in software development, bugs pop up and they can take much longer to solve than you initially thought.
But like 75% of this thread can be summed up to “I don’t know what a closed beta with optional sign up is”.
err…
Maybe forum users, but I would be surprised if there are more paying users riding outdoor than indoors…
This post from @Nate_Pearson seems to say that the levels don;t get reset:
Definitely agree with you. There are a few too many people in this thread who are basing an inordinate amount of their happiness on something they have no control over.
Ride your bike, do some intervals, you’ll be ok.
I manually adjusted mine two weeks ago after a bad bout of sinusitis and two weeks off the bike. Everything reset to 1.
We are on the forum for a training software company dedicated to bikes. Some of us spend more time per week training than speaking to people outside our households/works nowadays.
So yeah, I for one feel quite strongly about AT 
If you count how many of us listen to the podcasts you might realize that „ride your bike, do some intervals“ simply doesn‘t cut it for some of us 
That‘s understimating how passionate some of us are about bikes 
That’d be one of my main takeaway’s.
There is no set standard for what a private/closed beta comprises, but in my prior career in software development I was accustomed to seeing Production releases which were less functionally complete and far, far more buggy than the impression I have of TR’s AT closed beta - and this was for mission critical software costing (tens of) millions of $$. 
. So, “expectations”, and all that…
Another of my takeaways would be that if AT was of little interest, few or no one would be complaining about a perceived slow rate of progress towards a general release. The impatience tells me that people recognise what an initial big step forward this move into adaptive plans may represent, and are super eager for it.
Since I first subscribed to TR, first Calendar, then Plan Builder then Group Workouts rolled out. For me personally, these were either pleasant nice haves or of little interest (benefit) to me. But the stuff being rolled out now (and in the pipeline) looks like a massive deal to me, and has me super excited about the product’s usefulness to me as a tool going forward.
Realistically, I anticipate it taking quite a number of releases (and a sizeable chunk of time) beyond this current initial planned release for the underlying technology and the product to be steadily refined, improved and expanded before AT really delivers on its potential, but I fully e̶x̶p̶e̶c̶t̶ hope it will do so in time. Happy to be - patiently - along for the ride.
Seriously? So AT requires a TR-formatted FTP test? Well that sucks. Guess I won’t be doing it after all…
That was my experience. I don’t know if that’s the intended experience.
Psychiatrists dream this thread, crazy.
People who aren’t in the beta now trust me if you were thinking you’re going to get some sort of Pandoras box of sessions which are going to turn you into Filippo Ganna (world TT champion) in 6 weeks you’re not. I had a few adaptations in the first few weeks and since then barely any, it’s just a plan, it.might work, it might not.
I forgot to respond to the above in my earlier reply: I reckon a good chunk of (vocal) posters must view Closed Beta selection as akin to a coveted “VIP Pass”, not the reality of being volunteered as an unpaid tester of software that’s still being refined, potentially requiring some heavy lifting (and time commitment) of them as users.
Speaking generally (ie. not TR-specific at all): “Lucky” beta testers will have a trouble-free time, while others not so lucky might face a bundle of frustrating issues requiring feeding back, working around and iterating through. Since “being lucky” isn’t a strategy, I’d tend to avoid beta programmes, unless very late in the day when the product was more stable and on the brink of Production, or unless I was being paid to burn my time on them.
I think the turn in this thread is that TR has now geared their entire platform (plans, etc) to work with AT and yet only some small percentage of their user base can actually use it as intended.
They’ve pulled the rug out from under a sizable portion of their user base with the plan changes and no AT access.
Disagree - my opinion is very different. From my perspective, the new plans look and feel great. The combination of Workout Levels, TrainNow and the new plans has given TR a massive bump upwards in usefulness to me, the largest step forward since I began subscribing ~4 years ago. To be clear, I am not in the AT beta.
Am I alone in seeing this improvement? I’m super happy about these recent changes - perhaps I’m the only person, but unlikely. 
Maybe the most vocal though 
Just do a ramp test with each bike change. You probably want to keep the TT on for a few weeks at a time?
I agree. They made changes to the polarized plans and my plan got removed from the calendar. That sucked. That was when I quit using it.
I keep seeing people say some variation of this, and it’s explicitly not the case. Jonathan and Nate explained that when they turned the new modeling system on the workouts in the catalog to assign levels, and then looked at the level progressions in their plans, they realized that for most of their userbase, the plans started too hard and ramped up too fast. They changed the plans to make them better. Not to make them easier, and not to make them work with AT.
I’ve been on the AT beta for a while. The original plans worked fine.