I use Castelli neoprene gloves (which I love but don’t work with touchscreens) in cold weather, but when it starts to dip into the 20s F, I use thin merino wool glove liners with waterproof shell mitts made for backpacking. They’re easy to ball up into a jersey pocket, but shifting in them does take some getting used to. It cuts the wind so it doesn’t freeze your fingers like full-fingered gloves would.
I can’t speak for your friend’s setup, but no the whole thing about vapor barrier liner gear is 0 permeability. Yes it is counter intuitive, and I can’t speak for it’s effectiveness for all people, but it is a thing.
llmonty - yep, Appalachian Journey. Got caught off guard with the “partner required” bit since I’m coming from Texas (have some property in Floyd I’m looking at building on), but found an old friend in Fairfax and talked her into it. Now she’s cussing me
They are wind and water proof. I find them a bit cool at 2C but they are doable. I honestly don’t remember if they work with touchscreens - I think the thumb or one finger might.
I’ve worn them down to -10c but don’t recommend that - you will get frostbite if you do that for much more than an hour.
You could also look at some of Sealskinz stuff, though I haven’t used them.
If the temps are really going to around freezing and wet for a long time, you might consider just getting a pair of pogies as well. There are pros and cons to that approach in those temps.
Edit; latex gloves were mentioned. I’ve tried nitrile gloves as a liner before. They add about 5c to your gloves. However your hands will be soaked - like pruney and puddles of sweat in under an hour. Don’t recommend, but have brought along on long rides for emergency use.
one on the neoprene gloves but there are thickness’ that sometimes you gotta look for. Surfers know about neoprene and the thickness (measured in mm, i like 2-3mm)as it makes it warmer or cooler and if you ever have too thick of a glove neoprene can turn into a slippery, sweaty, smelly, mess.
I ride in VA and race gravel there (whats the race?) and this year used a overglove/shell mitt or lobster that was just a wind/waterproof barrier. Once it warms up you can just use your lighter glove thats under it and they compact down so well you just stuff it in your jersey pocket. Nordic skiers use them. Assos makes an ungodly expesive mit and their are others (i think Toko makes one). They’re great too in that you can stuff them full of warmers if you think the weather might turn south and they become a cold weather kit thats an easy grab.
Heard about the latex glove trick and tried it once worked but felt weird but they were too big so might try that trick again.
Check out dissent133. It’s simply a 3 glove system with a liner, insulation and shell that you can mix and match depending on the conditions. I’ve got the wind proof set and they work well for my weather in which it may start off at 30F but can easily reach 60F by mid day.
Look for primaloft insulation (Gold if you can get it) - extremely windproof, very warm and low bulk. Loads of brands offer them in various forms but I have some Sportful ones which are excellent - wore them the last couple of days with temps around 0c and a biting N wind, and I was fine - and somebody that usually feels cold feet and hands very very quickly and easily.
A couple years ago I picked up some cheap ($15 or $20) ski gloves from Costco and use them on the bike maybe 5 times a year. My wife suggested them, and that we could bring 'em back if they didn’t work out. They have really nice grippy material on the palm and support touchscreens (I’ve only used them with my phone). I wear my summer gloves inside for the padding.
Thanks for all the input everyone. Looking at some thin silk glove liners to go w/ the Pearl Izumi gloves to start with; if those don’t work, I’ll go down the list here
It definitely leaves your hands wet and soggy but it also works real well to keep them warm. The latex keeps all the water from evaporating so they don’t cool down.
I have the full set, wind proof, waterproof, light and heavy liners, If i did it again, i probably would not get both the wind and waterproof. Id just use the waterproof for wind and rain. The silk liners are rad, gonna need to get a second set after two seasons of use.
I reserve my neoprene gloves for (heavy) rain only, not freezing temps as neoprene needs to trap the moisture to keep your hands warm. Dry neoprene gloves are slightly windproof, but not warm. As said before, they do not keep you dry but at least I stay warm on longer rides in heavy rain in temps from maybe +3C and above. And my fingers get cold very easily.
yep - neoprene is rubbish for cold weather protection in my experience. Every time I’ve used in any kind of cold rain my hands were like blocks of ice in no time…