Thread resurrection. I’ve noticed today that the outdoor z2 workouts, which used to be a significantly longer time than their indoor counterparts, are now back to being exactly the same length in time as the indoor session. e.g. this one which yesterday I remember seeing was 1 hour 52mins long.
Is this a long term change back?
Yup, they are planning a return to 1:1 length based on comments elsewhere.
Update: After a big push from the team, all workouts except FTP tests and race simulation workouts (like Blue for example, pictured below) now have 1:1 outside workout equivalents!
I’ll go ahead and mark this as ‘resolved’, but let us know if you see anything thats amiss when switching a workout to outside. Thanks for the patience, all!
Why not keep the same intervals for warmup, @IvyAudrain? “Warmup gradually increasing power…” is kinda weird, I would prefer to have exact targets for ALL the intervals, including warmup. In addition, TR sends recovery valleys at range 0-target so my Garmin shows exactly half of the target.
Thank you.
Hey there! Ivy doesn’t work here anymore, so I’ll respond instead.
The main reason we keep the warmup more “open” is because it can be difficult to follow specific instructions outdoors. Additionally, many athletes like to ride to a certain stretch of road/hills/etc. where they’re planning to do their intervals. Keeping the warmup open-ended allows for more flexibility – especially when riding through areas that are less than ideal for specific power targets.
While your Garmin may display the recovery valleys at exactly half of the target, keep in mind that these targets are indeed ranges – it’s okay if you’re not hitting them bang-on, especially during recovery periods. I personally like to spin at the lower end (closer to 0W) during recovery intervals.
Hi Zackery, and thanks for the follow up. I totally agree with open ended WU, that makes a perfect sense, but following WU intervals is in no way harder, than following ones of MS. If I can manage 30s VO2 max MS intervals just fine, why cannot I manage 1 min ones of the WU?
Regarding WU - I would propose to add an option to run custom WUs, I believe everyone has her own one that works best for her. It indeed may make the system complicated, so I’m not sure if this makes sense from a big picture perspective.
Another way is to finally create easy to use workout editor just like the one of TP with an option to change WU with one click.
Does that make sense?
P.S. I’m keeping this up since I’m a one who is really dependent on a good WU for the workout success 
You could also just drop the LSCT Warmup workout into the calendar as an outdoor workout, which has specific targets: 6’ @ 50%, 6’ @ 72%, 3’ @ 99%.
Then again, there’s not much to it so you could probably just memorise it & do it during the prescribed workout’s warmup period.
