Wahoo KickR v6 vs Favero Assioma Pro MX-2

But you asked how to fix it and you’re saying you are not using the number one feature to avoid ever having had this problem to begin with.

You have 3 sets of (nearly) identical pedals from the same brand and a random trainer. This is exactly the situation for power match.

Who cares what the trainer says. Use the pedals that you use outside as the power source, that’s the solution. Not wahoo support or any other support. Use power match, both TR and zwift have it. Even if the trainer was closer this would still be the better setup.

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I would 100% use a power meter rather than a trainer as a power source if a power meter was available.

That doesn’t mean you should have to live with a kickr that doesn’t work though.

I hope wahoo support have some answers for you.

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Another alternative is to use Golden Cheetah to export the fit files to excel, and do the comparison in excel.

You adjust your power meter down (in the Quarq/Assioma-app) so it matches the trainer.

No. Not if he has 3 pedals that match and a Kickr that does not match. I’d say adjust the Kickr or don’t use it as others have pointed out.

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Why would I do that, when I know the peddles are accurate? When you spend almost $1000usd on a trainer, I would expect it to be accurate. I would then need to turn down the power of the rest of my peddles (I have three sets of Favero peddles, on three different bikes).

Wouldn’t throttling down the power of the peddles to match the trainer throw off my real world training…

I tried using the peddles to control power on my set today. The trainer cut out, but appeared to start spinning under it own power. Very strange…

I think it’s officially time to call customer support…

Ok, I’m late to the party here, but one minor thing, is that it looks like your KICKR has ‘ERG Mode Smoothing” turned on, which is why those lines from the KICKR look perfectly straight/flat. It’s simply writing/publishing the value it’s being told to, not the actual power value. This is called the ‘Set point’, in other words, the wattage it’s being told by TR/etc to ‘set’.

In most cases, those two are pretty close, but there can be cases (perhaps even yours) where the set point is significantly different than the actual point. An example being if you’re in the big ring on your bike, that can cause the flywheel speed to be unpredcitable, and the two won’t always align. Point being, while it’s likely that something is amiss up there, Wahoo will almost certainly tell you to turn off that setting and test again.

You can turn off power smoothing via the Wahoo app.

(Sorry! But, shoot me a note via e-mail, just my first name at domain name, and I’ll extend your Analyzer sub to cover it)

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It makes me happy that DCR and myself are on the same page here :slight_smile:

I’d go further and say that there is a special place in hell reserved for the person at Wahoo who decided to turn this on by default….

Yeah, I’ve had many conversations with them about this over the years. Their answer is basically that “people like smoothed data”.

And the thing is, I could get behind a 3s/5s/10-second smoothing of ERG mode data, but just smooth the *actual data*, not the prescribed set-point value. Because in some case (such as high flywheel), the athlete may very well actually be doing the correct power (along with the trainer), but having the set point broadcast instead, implies the athlete is missing the targets entirely.

(And sorry, missed your comment above)