VO2 max Garmin readings

Another FWIW - I can also see it in my power-to-HR numbers.

From a tracking standpoint, its easier to just let Garmin show estimates wiggling around a little.

My load/volume has dropped recently, and at same time I’ve done some really hard workouts that required extra recovery. So VO2 estimates dropped:

Past 2 weeks I did two killer (for me) anaerobic capacity workouts, at the expense of high aerobic work (tempo / SS):

To your point above! Usually Anaerobic is short or at low end of optimal range.

Which of course leads to this recommendation:

Yeah, yeah, as soon as my legs have recovered the anaerobic capacity workouts.

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Something to watch out for Garmin VO2 Max….mine kept climbing recently, which as much as I would like it to be true seemed exceptionally high without a lot of explanation. Then I noticed how Garmin kept saying I needed more “high aerobic” work, right after I did a killer VO2 max session….weird.

So turns out that I had toggled on the auto max heart rate detection on my 530, and at some point it got an anomalous 220 max reading and changed it in my profile. My actual max is 183. So it decided when I was at 175 bpm in a VO2 max interval, that I still had 45 bpm to go and set my VO2 max well into the 70’s.

Moral of the story, I’d suggest toggling off the max heart rate auto detect in Garmin.

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I believe, could be wrong, that vo2max estimates only work if you record natively on a Garmin bike computer.

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Almost all of my rides are sent to TR from a Tacx Smart Bike and then to Garmin, and I definitely get Garmin VO2max estimates and changes

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Well then I’m wrong about it!

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My garmin estimate and intervals.ICU estimate are +/- 2, so it might be somewhat accurate?

I’m not arguing either way but would like to add that I’ve recently carried out 4 lab tests spreadover 18 months and each time my VO2 max has been within 1 or 2 of what my Garmin was giving me at the time

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My peak vo2max estimates over last 90 days:

  • 45 : Garmin
  • 45.2 : Intervals, from 5 minute effort
  • 43.9 : WKO5

picking the high and low, that is only a 2.9% difference between estimates in WKO5 (?) and Intervals (5-min effort). Same same. And Garmin uses another method (Firstbeat) to estimate VO2max.

Due to age declines and relatively low number of years training, my focus is on absolute estimated vo2max (WKO5) as it is independent of weight fluctuations.

Pretty cool that the numbers are all so close.

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With “enough” near maximal long-ish efforts, I’ve seen Garmin and WKO5 almost perfectly align. Right now I’ve only got a single ~20 minute near max effort.

I’ve heard a few folk say that but it has never worked for me :exploding_head:

I don’t even get intensity minutes from my Tacx smart turbo rides in Garmin. An hour of VO2 max work and not a single intensity minute in Garmin Connect :joy:

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It gets sent to Strava as well, so don’t know if that’s the missing link. I’ve never done anything special in terms of settings and all the TR data seems to be incorporated into all the Garmin metrics.

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My TR account is set to sync to Strava and GC also; whether its because I mainly use TR on the PC that it has never worked :thinking: :exploding_head:

Maybe–I use the Android TR app.

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My VO2 max estimates from Garmin are fairly steady. I’m a master at 56 going on 57, and include a vO2 max session every week.

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I think you need a weekly VO2 session to make it work - otherwise it just seems to drop off with any other sort of effort: I take it with a huge handful of salt.

Not true.

I’ve only started to get intensity minutes when I upgraded to an edge 530. Now it only works if I record on that device. The 520 still doesn’t give me the same metrics, even when it records the same powermeter and workout.

The problem is that the intensity minutes are calculated by device and not by Garmin Connect. It makes sense for Garmin as the load of all those calculations doesn’t hit their web servers. But it does mean it’s device (or app) specific. If you send data to Garmin from an app (such as Trainer Road) you’re not getting credit for the intensity minutes, even though all the data necessary to calculate them, is there. Which makes the weekly intensity minutes nonsense , if you don’t get them calculated from all your sessions.

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