That said, if you reach the top of your progression in the Specialty phase or fail a low-level workout, we’ll prompt you to adjust your FTP. These FTP adjustments are not AI FTP Detections and will not reset the 28-day timer to your next AI FTP Detection.
If I’m understanding the video correctly and @ming’s response above, it’s not actually detecting your FTP but increasing/decreasing your FTP by a couple of watts.
The team is aware of this bug and is working on a fix for it right now! If you are experiencing this issue closing and restarting the app should remove the duplicate workouts from your Calendar.
That did work for me. Not a refresh, but a full close/reopen.
One of the downsides of frequent AI FTP detection is that progression levels will remain low and so we get assigned “easier” workouts via Train Now.
I rarely got over level 4 in the past several months because my FTP was increased few times. E.g. I did VO2 Max workout with 30/30s recently and my HR never left Zone 2 because I could recover fast. Garmin says it is good base training. I bet that a workout with larger score (5+?) would prolong the “hard” interval time and make my HR follow the power zone better.
Anyways, thanks for a great app. I will still try to satisfy my curiosity and see what AI FTP tells me but will try to just follow the progression levels in next few cycles to have a comparison.
I was able to fix the doubled workouts with a reboot of the app, but now I’m having an issue where in trying to update Planbuilder, it’s duplicated several events, some of which I can’t even manually delete. They only show up once on the calendar, however. I also can’t update PB without it throwing a server error.
Had similar situation with workouts dropped in during a week I’d flagged as a C stage race - I’m actually on holiday in Mallorca with a buddy, riding every day but won’t be doing workouts. It’s really a training camp, without any structured training 
I too had some strangeness I’m my schedule after applying the setting. I had just started a new plan, so I deleted it, cleared out any stragglers and then re-applied the plan. Nice clean calendar.
I deleted the extra workouts before reading this thread. Now I’ve restarted the app and have no workouts for the next four weeks.
It would be REALLY nice if we could check our ftp more often.
I rarely change my FTP because I do it in 10W increments, but I would just like to know the trends. Yes, I know I have workout levels as a gauge, but the AI will have additional insights. I’m an adult with years of structured training experience. I can handle the information.
How about this: make unlimited AI FTP detection an unlock at 300 completed TR workouts. That would be a great way to drive loyalty.
So I’ve enabled early access but I started Speciality on Monday. LV HD Speciality, Plan Builder.
I’m not sure this feature will have any effect at this stage, or if I’m missing out on harder PLs perhaps that are more race specific perhaps?
EDIT
Well, off the back of this thread I boosted my 2.1 tempo workout to 6.4 and finished it easily.
Brutal! First workout in… I mark my workout as a ‘4’ as my legs were a bit heavy after a decent week and it was bit of a struggle but I never felt like quitting or reducing intensity and bang it tells me to drop my FTP below what my previous FTP was… If I finish the workout as prescribed, then my FTP is right… Workout: Geiger, SS PL 3.9 → 4.5…
Possible bug. I had moved all my workouts around on the calendar to fit around my shift roster. After enabling the new AI FTP it seems to have reset the calendar and moved all workouts back to the default days of Tue, Thu & Sat on the LV plan.
Cheers
You’ve taken away the confetti when I hit a new PL high 
This is the only positive affirmation I get for doing my TR workouts and I want it back!
I see you still have the confetti for an FTP updates 
On a more serious note, i’m a bit confused about when the AIFTP adaptations will happen. Is this set to a 28 day clock (unless knocking up against the top/bottom PL’s) or will it happen at another time depending on the training/performance you achieve?
Is it a minimum of 28 days, but could be longer depending on your stage in the plan (specialty accepted), or does it only happen if AT thinks an adaptation in FTP is appropriate at some point after 28 days since the last one?
Similar question to me! I passed 28 day this morning so will see what my next workout shows, although an official answer would be even better!
What about workouts and ratings in the prior week or so? Barring a bug, I wouldn’t expect TR to offer an FTP reduction via a single workout and rating, without some longer trend in place.
Trainerroad crew - is this working as intended? In the video, Nate said that if you fail a workout lower than 2, then it would nudge you down. But it sounds like some people are getting their FTP nudged down when they mark higher level workouts as very hard (or just hard per an earlier poster). Or is this a bug?
but 3x12 sweet spot shouldn’t be hard with a properly set ftp. At risk of opening the can of worms, if you can’t pretty easily do like at least 3x20 sweet spot, then I’d feel like there’s some overestimation going on. A workout like Tray Mountain (6.9, 3x20 @ 90%) I think would be a good gauge
Same thing has happened to me. I successfully completed Truchas +1 last night, a 6.3 sweet spot workout, and marked it as very hard as still getting over a nasty cold and legs were a little cooked from an outdoor ride earlier in the day. Got the failure survey, marked the reason as training fatigue and I got the ‘Let’s get you back on track’ message with a suggestion to reduce my FTP by 6 watts. I accepted this and it increased my current PL’s a little and changed all my upcoming workouts for ones with higher PLs. The irony being that AIFTPD only ran on Monday and I got a 2 watt increase. Have tried changing last night’s workout survey to hard but it hasn’t changed anything other than I’ve now got a load of ghost workouts showing up on my previous history which weren’t there before.
Just to add, I bailed early on a scheduled 7.2 PL sweep spot workout on Monday due to the cold and marked the failure survey reason as sick. Perhaps this was a trigger?
Guess I can manually update my FTP back to where it was but will this trigger AT to put the upcoming workouts back to where they were?
Edit: Have contacted support about this.
Similar story here - I finished a base phase Tuesday. I added a workout yesterday instead of a ramp, and afterward did my AIFTP AI, which bumped up 2%. Later last night I opted in to the updated AIFTP.
This morning I did Smith -2, which was really tough - but I wasn’t surprised because my FTP just increased. Marked very hard, and TR suggested a 2% FTP decrease. I haven’t failed or marked anything beyond a 3/hard in weeks (other than this morning), so I declined the suggestion.
Wow, if this is part of a new trigger point for FTP changes, TR needs to do some serious education about how and why this happens. Again, assuming this is working as intended now vs some sort of bug.
I am tagging @megkelley for this issue, since she was able to get some info for us yesterday.
