Tulsa Tough livestream [spoilers]

Whatever Doug did there he learned his lesson.

Lee woulda won easily if he hadn’t had his GoPro in the worst possible location. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Completely negated any aero gains from his Evade!

Seeing a gopro on top of an aero helmet is honestly triggering for me

If you are going to put a gopro up top, at least run a vented helmet so you get the cooling advantage.

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It offended everyone aero sensibility I have!! :rofl::rofl:

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That’s unfortunate :grimacing:.

Poor decisions made under the fog of battle?!?

That field looked jacked for ā€œCat 3ā€!

Not usually. I have a 1x Allez Sprint (2016) and most I come across are surprised they even came that way or exist.

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Every race is big ring and that’s from a masters perspective. I say that as we (typically) had the biggest/heaviest guys at Tulsa. With that said, I think people should realize, this race attracts very strong fields in all categories so, when you look at youtube and think ā€œthat looks easyā€ it’s a little different in reality. Not one guy that I knew in the masters even considered shifting to the little ring when they were with the front group. Perhaps solo or in a small group. The first little bit is around 13% and as you turn it’s like 4-5% (?) but, your speed has slowed so it’s kind of a grind. Very important to keep momentum around the outside IMO.

Unrelated, when Justin ā€œsat upā€ on the last lap day 2 many of us old timers were thinking ā€œSaturnā€ and I’m sure the young guys had never seen that move. I’m hearing he actually le the wheel go on effort but, I find that hard to believe as he hung in ok on crybaby. IMO he pulled a Saturn.

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Same. I’ve dropped many-a-chain shifting from big to small. Most of the time it just flops onto the BB shell and takes 3 seconds to fix.

The one time it got really wedged in there, I ended up having to remove the quick link and thread the chain out.

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I agree. I actually talked to Frankie. His commentary was along the lines of he got gapped but, after riding the course and seeing him come back to finish fourth, my thoughts are Saturn. From what I could see it took as much power to position on the downhill to get positon to sprint (then sprint) as it was on the uphill. Obviously we’ll never know.

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I’m not familiar with this term. Guessing it’s like the cycling equivalent of a flop, sort of?

Basically exactly what you saw. The sweeper lets a gap open at a critical time forcing others to burn a match or two just prior to the sprint.

I think Legion had this planned before day one thinking Cory for the overall due to him being more suited for the Riverside course. Meaning, I think day one Justin wanted that win then work more for Cory while still being up there to steal points. So for Justin or any other team mate, 2nd, 3rd, 4th was a secondary goal for the omnium. This move (intended or otherwise) accomplished that perfectly.

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And I really think the field thought Justin was the man for day two so everyone was fighting for his wheel. I really think he played them. I could be wrong. JMO

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I am in 100% agreement with you. As soon as I saw it, I thought it was a brilliant tactical move. Had he not out-sprinted the field, I would have thought he actually couldn’t hang, but that he beat them to the line solidified it being a tactical decision for me, regardless of what Frankie said Justin told him.

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Def a saturn sit up.

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What was the course side talk about strategies to deal with L39ion? It just never seemed like the other teams could come together and work as teams.

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I mean, when you have Ty and Sam who are doing the work and would be the No 1 on any team besides L39gion - makes it awfully hard.

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It’s almost like you need to consolidate some teams to make two or maybe three other power house teams, but I just don’t see that happening due to funding / location, or half the potential candidates unwilling to self sacrifice to become domestiques.

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I would love to see L39ion back in time when the crit scene was full of pro teams like UHC. Would be pretty rad. I hope this helps others to approach it more like a pro squad. 98% of these racers are working day jobs, don’t live too close to their teammates etc.

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What @Madhavok said. It looks easy on tv but, the reality is just, well…real. lol

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I think what Legion has tapped into is they have a squad built around Justin and Cory. Most importantly, who can finish it off. Everyone gets it. Other teams (from what I can see) are still out there trying to get individual results rather than for the team. Maybe not quite like that but, definitely not all pulling in the same direction maybe because they don’t really know if they can finish off. IDK just guessing…

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