Seems like a slap in the wrist would of given him 6 months to a year myself theres no excusing such a horrid act.
Yes but atleast with cycling products in this case (luxury goods) we CAN choose better.
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Brands can choose better too. Lord knows thereās a ton of kids out there with WT potential whoād be lucky to even glimpse that kind of opportunity, so to me it makes sense from a brand standpoint to put my money behind one that casts my business in a positive light- thatās sort of the point of sponsoring someone.
I very much doubt that team is strapped for options- being complicit in this sort of thing says something in itself, IMO.
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False analogyā¦no one is saying he canāt get a job. Some of us are saying he should not be able to keep this particular job.
As another example, I donāt believe Michael Vick should ever have been allowed to play in the NFL againā¦.but that doesnāt mean he shouldnāt be allowed to hold a job.
There is a difference between a ārightā and a āprivilegeā. It is my belief that everyone has a right to a job and one that pays them a living wage. Not every job is the same and some are privileges. Bike racing being one of them.
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I agree with this, and while I think he should be given an opportunity to earn redemption, a 20 day suspension is much too light of a punishment. He absolutely should have been axed from the team at least for the season, and until such time that he has shown he understands the gravity of his actions and has taken steps to address his sadistic tendencies.
I am surprised the brand doesnāt understand how serious the ādonāt f**k with catsā thing is on the internet. Those people have caught a serial killer before, and they donāt take too kindly to abuse of cats. I doubt this is going to be the end of it for both Trek and the offending rider.
For me, a possible outcome could have been for him to volunteer at an animal shelter for 6 months as an act of atonement + atoning to the cats owner directly. As Iāve said, Iām not into forgiveness as the first step, but I do believe in atonement + redemption (not religious variety). Let him first atone for the absolute fucktard act he did, and then he can come back to cycling and demonstrate that he learned from the episode and is now a better person.
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He shot a cat? British comedians have being doing worse since the ā80s.
(/joke)
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Donāt buy Trek, and let them know you donāt buy Trek. Simple.
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I agree with you, and I know a lot local public elementary schools are starting to think about things like restorative justice to promote empathy and relationships.
In this case, heās stated heās going to donate his 2023 prize winnings to animal welfare organizations in San Merino. That sounds like atonement, if you ask me (assuming he has any prize winnings).
We were on the cusp of getting a Trek for my wife. I probably would have still gone through with it, but she was so turned off by the episode that she refused a new bike. Yes, we have and love cats.
I was thinking about Michael Vick in the context of this story. Generally, I think if someone has paid for their crime in the eyes of the law, what business is it of ours what job he has? In other words, why shouldnāt Michael Vick - who by all accounts Iām aware of was a different man after his punishment - be allowed to play in the NFL.
Not being provocative, Iām still trying to figure out how I feel about all of this.
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Donating money is something, but itās the easy way out. I would much rather see him donate a substantial amount of time volunteering in an unglamorous way. Paying $$$ just feels like the ārichā can do to not inconvenience themselves
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Sorry bud but youāre whatās the issue with society today
I disagree with your view point
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I wonder where he may volunteer?
I volunteer at my local shelter. I needed a police background check and references to volunteer. I think killing a cat may have hurt my chances. Though a shelter may make case by case exceptions for truly restorative justice. Iād definitely want him supervised at all times though no matter how accidental or how sorry he is about the original situation.
I appreciate the question, but as I laid out above, it comes down to some jobs being a privilege.
I also fully understand that mine is a minority opinionā¦.if you can throw / kick / run with a ball or ride a bike fast people are willing to forgive heinous acts, all in the name of sporting entertainment.
He was not playing with a toy nor, I doubt, plastic pellets. Here is what he was playing with:
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They are absolutely not toys. Gun laws are very strict in the UK and air rifles are popular hunting weapons. A quality .22 or .177 air rifle can kill small mammals (rabbits, squirrels) and birds quite easily and are used for those purposes. There have also, sadly, been a small number of fatalities in the UK from air weapons, mostly due to accidental discharge at close range.
This is what heās doing though. The OPās linked article includes Tiberiās translated statement. The full statement is demonstrating remorse and his seeking to atone for what he has done. The below is what he wants to do in addition to punishments from the court and from his employer. Hereās just a part of it:
He continued: āI also think it is necessary not to limit myself to apologies alone, but also to take action with facts. I have therefore decided to make an economic donation based on the prizes that I will benefit from in the current season to some associations in the San Marino area that take care of stray cats, in whose choice I would like to collaborate with the government.
āFurthermore, I would like to choose one of these associations and spend some of my free time to help out actively.
āI realise that all of this comes only in retrospect but, alas, now I can do nothing but follow up my repentance with a concrete and useful gesture. I made a big mistake and I think now the only thing I can do is take action to fix it.ā
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Quinn got in some hot water over conduct some felt was racist. The team suspended him and gave the team diversity training as a result, but he then went on to say he was unfairly punished and didnāt see anything wrong with what he had done.
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