I really enjoyed the segment talking about training multiple systems during a single workout/ride. One thing that struck me as odd was the discussion about doing Sweet Spot work with endurance work. Specifically during or after a bout of endurance work. Example: riding for an hour at Z2/endurance pace and then working in some sweet spot intervals mid or late ride. This was referenced as a negative.
A lot of races start easy and end hard.
I would think that there could be huge benefits by doing rides where you put fatigue in the muscles by starting with z2/endurance and then hit them with some intensity toward the end.
The opposite is starting out with intensity and finishing with endurance, which is what Chad advocated, but this seems like it might not yield adaptations we might be after…training in a fatigued state and putting stress on a system that you want. Example: a race winning break away or attack
Would love to hear some discussion on this.
There is. Pro rider Will Barta’s coach, Nate Wilson, had him doing “Tired 20” intervals during his development years — 20min peak power after 2500 kJ of endurance work to develop higher power fatigue resistance.
One of these things, who knows? Building the engine vs specificity training. There are arguments for either approach. And they are not necessarily exclusive.
My own experience with training pre-fatigued are not so good. It’s tough on the mental side, pushing yourself enough in training when already tired. Not an option currently but this is why racing is so important for development. You can always hurt yourself more in races.
However, all my events are more or less fast start events. Training pre-fatigued would work on the “survival”/fatigue resistance aspect.
Necroing this because I’m catching up on podcast videos. Some people talk about watts Jonathan saved by shaving his head, which might not be that much if it’s under a helmet. I wonder how many w/kg he gained by losing that weight.