I see this complaint so regularly. It’s been a bit since I’ve used TR for creating a training plan but in less than 2 minutes I was able to create a custom plan that based my full weeks on 9.5 hrs per week… you just have to tell it you want that kind of volume. My understanding is that assuming you’re doing well and completing everything, the “check volume” feature will help drive that as well.
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That isn’t what the plans currently do - currently the athlete chooses the length of the rides 
Agree the there needed to be some education around the “check volume” feature but TR never forced you into high intensity 1hr endurance rides - there has always been the choice to make them longer…
Nevertheless…. I think you should be pleased with the new update regarding how it dynamically adds volume if you have the time….
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100% this 
I like having it and I find it interesting - but I am nowhere near the point where I would want TR to use it to modify my training.
I’d maybe like the data uploaded into TR just so it’s there to look at (like training peaks) but definitely not a priority for me.
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I’m worried it still won’t be able to tell how severe the DOMS can be after gym work.
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I can’t tell if Jonathan being gone skiing all week is a good sign and they have everything dialed in for a new year’s release, or we’re going to have to wait until some unknown time after his return for it to launch.
This is great and appreciated progress, but I’d like to see more from TR. In particular, I would like TR to be a true AI coach, not just a program that recommends and adjusts my workouts. I’d like TR to recommend nutrition and hydration strategies for on and off the bike including carb loading guidance as well as recommendations for race pacing and taking and integrating feedback from athletes about how a planned for event actually went. These are just examples. There are many other ways that an athlete would interact with a real coach. This is all possible with AI and other systems, including ChatGPT, which allow you to interact in similar ways. Gotta up your game TR.
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I’ve reached the point where TR didn’t have a progressive workout for endurance 90 minutes or less, ie it forced me to bump up to 105 or 120 minutes to keep pushing the endurance slider to the right. So I don’t think your take is 100% accurate.
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A lot of these features sound similar to the things I love about Join, where the focus is on consistency over ticking zone boxes. It also incorporates a good amount of z2 in almost every workout as to build a big base and not overcook your legs. Seems like TR might be headed this way a bit as well, I’m here for it.
cough GOLF cough
Joe
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Da fuq, I didn’t say that.
Those sound great, but let’s remember we also find value in TR because it costs much much less than an actual coach. Let’s not add so much that they are forced to charge us more. Some of us are happy coaching ourselves and looking up any of that other info we need. If you want a dietician and a coach, feel free to go hire them. But expecting them for about 20 bucks a month is asking a lot.
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Does this update have the ability to shift periodization block if deemed necessary (e.g switch to a fully focussed VO2 from threshold) or is it an iteration of the current adaptive system where only single workouts are modified but the underlying block structure does not change?
Are outdoor rides taken into account?
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Mats.coach does that now for twice the price.
True AI in coaching feels for me there like in other fields, too. 50% of the time AI is spot on and just amazing. 50% it‘s just wrong…
So you get recommendations you need to doublecheck. Just like with a static training plan from the old days…
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I’d like to hear the answer to that question too. I asked a more general/abstract form of this question here:
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I really don’t understand why everyone is liking this reply. You’re making a massive assumption here that improving TrainerRoad in this way would raise prices, even though TrainerRoad just introduced a bunch of new functionality and didn’t raise prices. The cost of developing new functionality is already built into your subscription price. Why are end users here randomly deciding which functionality should cost more money and which we should get for free? The user posted something that they would like to have from TrainerRoad. Telling them to go pay for it somewhere else when it’s possible that it could be included within the current TrainerRoad subscription, or even added for an additional optional fee is very presumptuous. If TrainerRoad doesn’t constantly evolve, it will eventually get passed by the competition. The kind of things they asked for might just be the future. And when those things come, everybody will show up to “like” the announcement post and talk about how amazing TrainerRoad is even though they shot down the original idea. It’s a very odd form of gatekeeping if you ask me.
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I believe that people are liking it because they responded to someone seeing an update about a significant but lateral change and requested an entirely new product. What they want exists just maybe not all in one so that would require either acquiring ($) or entirely new dev teams ($). People are already paying for these things in different places, it would be pretty expected that bringing all that in would increase cost.
Really though I think it’s the former people are responding to and not the money part. Coming into an announcement thread and being like I haven’t seen or used any of this but how about you give more is pretty crazy.
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I mean, all I’ve been doing is reading the updates and hoping one will announce the things I’ve been waiting for. I don’t think that’s odd at all.
They joined the forum and their very first post was hey sounds great… But please instead make a whole new product. Step your game up.
That’s not reading and waiting for updates.
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I get the point you’re trying to make, but again, you’re making assumptions. How do you know they haven’t been reading for days/months/years and seeing the new updates spurred them to post for the first time? Is there a rule that your first post has to be a glowing fanboy one or asking the same question that’s been asked a million times?
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I don’t think it’s the time or place for a wide sweeping suggestion like they had. There is a wish list/suggestion thread and that likely belongs in there.
Honestly the podcast goes into a lot of detail on the things they were requesting, granted they aren’t rolled into the TR software.
If they want to make that suggestion after the update rolls out, sure go ahead but it’s basically asking for a completely different product from what TR is and has always been.
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