like the girl in the video said, āwinā is perfectly acceptable and given all the foreign languages you hear in CA, its what youāll hear from 1st and 2nd gen Viet-Americans. Next up - Tagalog - the most common foreign language spoken at our Wed night worlds.
Well, given how common the name is, itĀ“s only a matter of time until there is a Nguyen in the TdFā¦ so definitely relevantā¦ at some point 
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Yeah I travel for work and the pronunciation of my last name often gets mangled badly except in Spanish and Italian speaking countries. In France its common to check into a hotel and be referred to as Mr BarriĆØre. In the USA, well the pronunciation gets mangled a LOT except in CA and other areas where there are many native Spanish speakers. The most amusing is Barbera as in Hanna-Barbera the animation/cartoon production company, although I donāt hear that one much anymore.
Having also traveled in Japan and China, it can be as hard for me to pronounce their names as it is for them to pronounce mine (first and last!). Japanese is generally easier for me, I guess because the language has more consonants and fewer inflections (vs Chinese). Even one of my riding buddies with a thick Tagalog accent has trouble saying my name. Personally I make a point of trying to pronounce names correctly, as my job for 30+ years has involved working with a lot of H-1B holders and international subsidiaries.
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The JB2 podcast with Johan B is great. Agree, Hager is pretty much clueless, and it bugs me that he can pronounce names correctly - āMatteoā VDP??
The other youtube show I like is Chris Hornerās. It also bugs me that he canāt pronounce names properly (Ineos āGrinadaresā), but at least he knows his stuff.
I donāt even listen to the Lance podcast. It does not add anything vs the JB2 podcast.
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A few previous iterations of the Move yielded some interesting commentary from GH and even LA but yeah, Johan is the one that has the most insight into tactics/strategies, in general, and into the current state of the peloton more specifically.
As an American who is on daily international calls I find people all over the world appreciate it if you ask them how they pronounce their name and then make an effort to say it, even if you butcher it horribly. It might take a few days or weeks for some names, but consistently asking and making an effort is a great way to introduce yourself to new colleagues and customers
The fact that professional broadcasters, who have access to these people (or at least their press officers) canāt be bothered to ask and even attempt to say the name the way the person says it speaks volumes about the level of respect they have for the people they are talking about.
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Lol dunno if you saw my post about a guy Nguyen who called in and introduced himself as Noogin, you could tell he just gave up
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There is a guy we ride with whose name is Dung. He gets called all sort of things from Yam, to Yung, to his last name. Iāve heard him say it straight up Dung, which Iām assuming everyone is trying to avoid, because it makes them slightly uncomfortable. Iāve tried looking up the proper pronunciation, but I think itās just as simple as it sounds. If anyone has any insight, would be great, because heās a pretty good acquaintance of mine and I feel guilty not being certain.
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My legal first name is spelled the Spanish way even though Iām Portuguese (long story involving language barrier with my parents) and Iāve always gone by my anglicized nickname because I hate the way Americans say the the -e at the end of words as -ay
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So do you use āwinā as the pronunciation?
(side note - this has been a very interesting discussion)
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What is a āsmallā knee surgery. I know of ACL and MCL surgeries, and they arenāt small.
Same here. I mean, the guy made a video. He can just watch it and practice. https://twitter.com/IntermarcheWG/status/1300385985830805505?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1300385985830805505|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sbs.com.au%2Fcyclingcentral%2Farticle%2F2020%2F09%2F01%2Fits-van-avermaet-says-greg-hilarious-pronunciation-video
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Makes sense.
Man, I was not expecting to learn pronunciation on this forum.
But, I did. Cool.
My own name is so damn unique that I used my middle name at school. Was just easier. Bullying was rampant when I grew up. Still is, but steps are being made nowadays.
In regards to the pronunciation on broadcasts.
Come on. One of the lead commentators of the Tour canāt even say Pogacar correctly (Poe garch ar) Now I get that itās kinda hard to start with. However, HE WON THE FREAKING TOUR LAST YEAR. HEāS WINNING THIS ONE. That sure as $%^& means you need to get it right.
Staggeringly unprofessional.
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Youtube channel Tour de Tietema again hold a wheelie contest (stage 15)
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ah didnāt watch it yet, but my money is on title defender Oliver Naesen 
There are about 30 dudes that could win today, feel free to list them as a reply!
Iāll go first: WVA, obviously
Golden Greg
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Iām in your boat, I teach English in France, so there is a lot of mutual name butchering. I always make a point to remind them that itās not out of malice but just my ineptitude. I my defense many of them have Breton (celtic) names. (ex Gwencāhlan)
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