I don’t see that happening…..I guess it will depend on the numbers. IOW, they would have to gain enough new users to offset (and more) the loss of the current two platform subscribers who would switch to the “middle ground”
There is already a chunk of users doing both and paying full pop. If you set a middle ground of 50% of a TR membership (~$10 for easy numbers), some percentage of those dual platform users are going to drop their TR sub and switch to the middle ground. Again, using easy numbers, that means TR would have to get a commensurate number of new users (current Zwift only subscribers) to decide to pick up TR as part of their plan.
I’d have to sit down with a pencil and paper to work the numbers out to see if it makes sense for a middle ground option, but not sure it does.
Although I agree with your sentiment, I would just like to point out that the price you pay has increased 330% since end of 2020 if you account for the exchange rate.
If TR use the new Zwift API, it just gives (slightly) more reason to pay for both. I don’t see any case for offering a combined lower cost subscription.
Yeah, for me the cost has increased from NOK 732 in November 2020 (79 USD x 9.27 NOK/USD) to NOK 2,247 (210 USD x estimated 10.7 NOK/USD, i.e. the price has increased by 207%.
Another legacy ($99) user thankful for the option to stay at this price.
I would probably subscribe for the increased price but would consider switching to a different platform for a season (no other platform subscriptions currently). The only concern is that there have not been enough new features that are relevant to me.
Sadly its time for me to say goodbye to TR, I won’t be renewing after my current year is up - As a longtime subscriber who was grandfathered in to $99 / year, accepted the need for price increase and when i went to look for the discount option, I could never find it on my account, was charged the full amount, which pissed me off but i let it go - Still cannot understand why this was not an automatic option for the grandfathers.
ZWIFT which i use to ride in while using TR to relieve the boredom of looking at a blue chart increased their pricing, I opted to dump that and stick with TR, now it seems all these apps are just getting out of reach financially, especially when you live in my country and factor in the exchange rate.
I fired up both MyWhoosh & Indievelo and tried them out, really impressed with what they have to offer. The fact that they are currently free certainly overrides the few unique options like Adaptive Training & AI FTP detection which is what i mainly used with the training plans.
Replying to no one in particular but to everyone who opted to get out of the legacy pricing tier, I have a hard time understanding what was unclear about the move. Nate et al were very clear that people opting out would be subject to whatever price increases came in the future and that there would be no further legacy tiers or anyone being grandfathered-in.
This, of course, doesn’t change anyone’s freedom to do whatever they want with their money, that goes without saying (said it anyway).
TR for me is much more than indoor training platform. To invest on outdoor part would difrentiate TR even further. But yeah if TR is used only indoors then i fully agree with you.
Perhaps it would be more reasonable if you didn’t just copy last year’s increase justification, or at least removed the “Last time we raised the price was Aug 2019, or almost 5 years ago” bit.
How often are we to expect 10% increases now? What improvements have been made since the last increase?
Yeah, most people don’t…I didn’t know it until relatively recently (and I was a History / PoliSci major). Unfortunately, it has now become common vernacular, which is an example of how racism and racist terms get normalized in society.