You have plenty of time to have both as an A race….let Plan Builder do the work for you. Enter both as A races and it will figure everything out.
FWIW, I used to do a 70.3 in July as part of my build for IMWI every year….and I treated the 70.3 as an A race ( note: this was before I joined TR, but just illustrating that there is plenty of time between May and Sept to do both as an A race)
How much time would you need between races to treat them both as A races? I have IM 70.3 St. George on May 7th as my B race and IM CDA on June 25th as my A race, but I’m curious if I’m playing it too safe.
Hmmmm….I’m not a coach, so bear that in mind. 
But the timing you describe is similar to what I experienced between races like Racine 70.3 or Muncie 70.3 and IMWI. I was building my volume towards the full and used the 70.3’s as test races / building races, but absolutely raced them as A races. Taper ahead of time, full effort, etc.
But I am also an athlete who respond well to volume, so the best regimen for me leading up to a 70.3 was basically to follow a full IM plan, not a 70.3 specific plan.
This will also depend on your experience level….my first 70.3 wrecked me for over a week. By my last year doing tri’s. (5 years later), I could knock out a WC-qualifying race and be ready to resume training the next week.
So if you don’t have a lot of experience in triathlon, I would veer towards using the 70.3 as a B / Build event, not an A race.
Hey Mario….I mostly just rested. Did a few PT exercises, but I hated them and didn’t keep at it very long.
It probably took me well over a year to completely recover from it, but I was back training and racing the next season with a continual niggling sensation.
Sorry I don’t have much specific advice to give in regards to recovering from this.
I know what you mean, and I’ve tried to do the same, but no. Imagine yourself at the finish line of both races, which one would be most pleased to have done well? That’s your A race, everything else is B or C.
TR Plan Builder insists on something like 12 weeks between As.
Technically, I would treat it as a training race (B)(from a training perspective), but still do the race as best as you can. I am also doing Chatt full in '23, and will be doing Ohio 70.3 as my training race in late July. So, train as though you’re getting ready for Chatt, but mix in a small taper for your 70.3 race. I did this for Wisconsin in '21 and also did Ohio 70.3 as my pre-race to Wisconsin…it’s was more of a measuring stick for me and all my focus was on my full for the year, as it will be this year too. Hope that helps, and makes sense.
For Tri’s?
I used plan builder this year and had both SBT GRVL and Big Sugar as A races and they were ~2months apart and there were no issues w/ Plan Builder.
I thought it was 8 weeks apart for A races…
Yeah I’m not sure, I was guessing 12, but it’s been years since I considered more than one A race.
I feel like I get better progress across the board focussing on a single A race. Next year my A will be a local half distance despite IM Frankfurt a month later. As long as I don’t injure myself I believe I have the long course pacing experience to benefit from the planned half distance gains.
Been a bit MIA from the forums but raced IMFL today. Goal was a Kona slot and I got the last guaranteed spot. No rolldown luck needed!!!
I’ll post a full breakdown once I’m a little more sober and rested. 
Congrats…awesome achievement!!
Thanks for the note, Power13. On the one hand I’m relieved to hear people coming back to training and racing, but on the other hand it’s really challenging to have an injury without a clear plan on how to get back from it.
To not derail this thread I’ll start another–since I am still not 100% sure that all the symptoms I’m experiencing are related to the PHT.
Yep
I did two 70.3 last summer as B races. These were good prep but also significant interruptions to training for IMCA as i need to taper a week for a 70.3 and recover the wk after.
Hi, I’m on my way planning for 2023, and wondering how I should go with my training.
I’ve been following TR plans for 3 years and I’m mostly doing 70.3s.
Looking back at my races, taking the swim apart as you need an eye on site for that one, I still need to improve my bike leg. I’m a “not too bad” runner but maybe I can improve a bit as TR plans are not that great for the run!.
Split at 70.WC were 2:35/1:29
Question is, should I go for a full winter bike plan, taking it easy on the run for 2 months or so?
Which plan or which WO should I prioritize?
I’m also afraid of loosing my running fitness, if i am doing so.
Have you in the past, emphasize one sports over the others and how did it worked for you?
I love this phase 
Try starting with a strengths/weaknesses analysis, big list of both then pick two or three of each is the most significant.
Training has been good after NC.
I have not touch a pool or swim since the swim portion of the 70.3.
I been ramping up the running and keeping the cycling to mostly endurance/easy rides.
Hope to do a marathon early next year!
Yes.
I had a foot injury that meant no running for 5 months.
Threw myself into the bike, specifically TT’s with the aim of a sub 20min 10mile and to ‘retire’ a friend of mine by beating his course record for a local 25.
The specific focus saw my FTP increase by almost 50w after being plateaued for several years. More importantly, I managed to hang onto it pretty much ever since and have made the bike my strength in triathlon now having started the sport as a runner.
It wasn’t just a training focus where the benefit came though. I really dialled in my position and aero and got a huge amount of speed from that.
I really should take a lead from my own bike and have a swim focus…. But I just dont enjoy it enough to put bike or run into the background.
I’d say a 2:35 bike and 1:29 run are probably about equal in my experience (dangerous to assume that from one set of race times though). Maybe a 2:30 bike is aligned to a 1:30 run perhaps? But I wouldn’t say you’re very imbalanced.
I found running came back ok after about three months of training after a 5 month layoff.
What’s the half Joe?
Hi Joe,
Bit of a lurker on this thread…trying to figure out best approach for next year.
Haven’t used TR plans in over 3 years, been using a coach during that time and done multiple half IM races with pretty good success.
Making the step up to full distance next year and considering using TR plans. Targetting mid Sept 23 Italy race so have a long build to it. I have a fairly high tolerance to volume and enjoy structure (I’m only two weeks now into non structured off season and hating it!) so was considering using the HV Full distance plans for the bike and modifying the swim/run sessions (i swim with a group and do track sessions with group).
Plan builder has recommended doing base, build, specialty, build, specialty…but what do you think? Have you tried something similar? Or what would you recommend?
All opinions welcome!
Thanks
