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I’m coming from Cambridge - this will be my first IM event and first time in Weymouth too!
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Excellent, a kindred spirit and we’re in it together first IM& first Weymouth (visit and race) 70.3.
Yes I had a very good bike level, trained last year 20/25h weekly. Run was ok, but never trained high volume, and never trained for swimming as I didn’t really enjoy swimming
I bought a TT bike in December but did not train that much on it, bike handling is pretty scary at first but confidence comes fast. But TT position is another story, I lose a lot of efficiency and I think I should spend much more time on it to allow my muscles to adapt.
Other than that I hope I can enjoy more running without getting injured again, not sure if this was initially due to treadmill training, ski fall, or the start of training in TT position.
I also want to practice swimming on a more regular basis, 4/5 times a week instead of 2/3 times, even if the sessions get shorter at first. I am also planning at least 1 open water swim every other week.
I also have a short (25min climb) family race I would like to peak for, early August, so I will need to bring in more intensity into the plan.
Fantastic story, and well done to you both.
It wasn’t poorly worded I said exactly what I meant to. If people have not done the training they should not be encouraged to race. We aren’t like running or even cycling, you can’t just pull over easily and take a breather in the water.
Time and place… that wasnt it.
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If its not now when we have clear examples on the dangers of our sport when there are people encouraging people to race under trained then its never going to be the time. As for the place this is an internet forum of people who want the best for our sport, there’s no better place.
A little disapointed in my race, well at least my run. Picked up a hamstring issue the week before the race. Will write more later, thanks for following.
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Curious what the TR hive mind thinks about structuring the final ‘big’ rides preceding IMLP. Where I live it’s pretty flat so I have two choices:
- 25 mile flat ride out. 60 miles of intermittent climbing (6k total, lots of 8-13% grade). 25 mile flat ride back.
- 15 mile flat ride out. 95 miles of intermittent climbing (5.7k total, all 4.5% grade via 18 loops of the same 300’ hill). 15 mile flat ride back.
Or does it not matter at all? I did the full length of the IMLP course on the trainer last week and just can’t mentally do that again, too boring haha.
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I’d be a bit more careful to assume that the deceased was undertrained. Could be. But for all we know he/she might as well have been a top end pro suffering from an undiagnosed heart condition. Think of Tim O’Donnell who suffered a heart attack in a race, the year after he made the podium in Kona.
Especially on a forum full of enthusiasts and serious athletes it is important to acknowledge the risks involved in our sport. Blaming the undertrained in these situations deflects from the fact that heart health is something we should all take very seriously. We may feel invicible but we are not. Tim O’Donnell and Richard Murray are two recent examples from the pro ranks that opened my eyes to the fact, plus a few scary anecdotes over at slowtwitch scared the crap out of me.
Whatever led to that poor souls premature death, we might take it as an opportunity to read up on heart health and become familiar with early symptoms of heart conditions instead of assuming the deceased must’ve been at fault.
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This is pretty much how I trained for IMWI last year. ~1 hr flatish to ease into it, then spiky short climbs followed by a valley to the next one. It’s kind of like doing a 10 x 2 mins of VO2 work in the middle of a 5 hr long ride. For WI, it simulates the course pretty well. Not sure about IMLP.
This might be worse than the trainer to me.
Put me in the camp of “it doesn’t really matter”. Course specificity is nice, but is secondary to getting in the long ride. Ride both and see which one you makes you more likely to go out and ride it again.
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Agreed, while the review of the data that was compiled does show that it is common for issues in some ones first race they are also sprints and during the swim. We aren’t talking 30 minutes or an hour into an event where some ones body gives up, we are talking minutes. While they are likely less trained than some in many cases there isn’t necessarily evidence that they were undertrained and that was the cause. I believe I read somewhere that they were thinking it was stress related, yes the exercise is stressful on the body but something is triggered by the stress of the swim/start of race and that is especially a problem for a first timer. I’ve done 20+ races and come from a swimming background and I’m still nervous on the start line.
You also make a good point about using this as awareness. I’ve got a Dr appt Thursday to change my cocaine… I mean Ritalin RX and discuss my dizziness issue with him (unrelated to the medicine). It started in HS it was allegedly allergies then. Never went away but became concerning about 11 or so years ago when I was doing CF, they said it was a drop in blood pressure during certain movements. But it is back now after bike rides, rarely after a swim and almost never after a run unless it is a race. I feel great overall, I’d say my fitness is best it has been in years, but like when I was my absolutes fittest in HS its an issue, and here it is again. If it is heart related no one can really say I’m inexperienced or under trained at this point. Thankfully my Dr is a runner and understands me better than any PCP in the past, I chuckled when I saw my online chart a few weeks ago full of his notes basically saying ignore this guys weight/bmi he is very fit and healthy.
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OMG @TheGuil 4:27 with a 2:13 bike split. That blows my mind. I was feeling great about my race until I looked up your results haha. Congrats on a great race and a WC spot.
Personally I had a great day. Its awesome to know at least someone was checking my tracker! Its greatly appreciated.
Swim: 35:21. 8 minute PR.
Bike: 2:41. 27 minute PR.
Run: 1:41. 12 minute PR.
Overall: 5:05. This was a 45 minute PR.
I’ve been ‘participating’ in triathlon for about 13 years, but honestly feel like the last 6 months is the first time I’ve actually trained appropriately. Because of TR and Tower26 swim program, I’m finally on a road that results in actual improvements lol. It has me excited to keep building on my training and improving.
Because of a run injury 2 weeks prior, i was worried i wouldnt be able to participate in the run. I decided to just keep it super conservative and open it up the last few miles (if i made it that far). Luckily I did. This also has me excited as i think i have the injury figured out, and I left a ton of speed on the table in the run.
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Scuba diving has similar statistics. The problem is that an event happening during the swim is much more likely than happening any other time.
Thank you @teamsuchevich
Congrats on your 45min PR, this is a huge improvement, the good work pays off !
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So I think very generally speaking the TR zeitgeist is to become more race specific as you get closer to race day. IMO I dont think it really matters at Ironman unless you have one of the extremes; Lanzarote, Wales…Norseman…
You’re looking for a consistent power output over hours and hours and being able to run for hours afterwards. This can be done indoors if you have the experience of successfully holding back on hill climbs.
If fitness is fine but race day execution is your problem, then absolutely ride routes as similar to race day as you can find, or use the Rouvy/Fulgaz simulations.
Same dizziness for me for years now but I have very low BP and relatively low hr. It happens typically after longer bike rides as well.
Thanks, @JoeX . I think I’m just in my own head. I can do 5-7 hour trainer rides w/out issue and can replicate the same outdoors without issue. I actually find outdoors to be easier as my legs do get a few more breaks (that and there’s stuff to look at and my butt doesn’t bother me as much so time flies). Think I just need to get these 3 last big rides in and get settled for race day.
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Hi, Congrats to all that raced last weekend. Some great results among the members of the page.
Just wanted to a big thanks for the congratulation messages.
My Race went pretty much to plan.
Came out of the swim with a manageable gap (2 mins). Closed the gap on the bike (30s ). Then take the lead and close it out on the run. Between 10-20km I was worried I had gone out too fast & would fade but held on to the line. Have linked to the Strava data if anyone is interested.
Next up Ironman Uk in less than 3 weeks. My 1st full. Pacing will definitely be the thing that could wreck my day. Any advice is welcome?
Cheers Ben
https://www.strava.com/activities/7296817807
https://www.strava.com/activities/7295812898
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1:17 half off the bike?!
Outstanding run!
Congrats!
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LEGEND!! Nice work. Sent you a follow on Strava.
Anyone else want to follow me as well as I only have 30 or so people currently. Have to do the accept as I don’t need “work” people getting access to my activities. Got the 1040 solar and will be putting it to use next week after I fly to my parents for the summer for some really nice riding.
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