The Ironman Training 2020 Thread

Quick update on my battle with (what I’m pretty sure is) COVID-19. Never felt “ill” just extremely fatigued and chronically short of breath. My test came back negative, but I guess they have a 30-40% false negative rate. Still, once I heard that I went in to see the doctor just in case there was something else wrong with me. Most likely scenario is that I have COVID, but didn’t want a serious heart/lung condition get missed by assuming. Starting on Saturday I started to finally feel like I was improving a bit. Yesterday I did my walk around the block that normally takes all my energy and extended it a little bit. This morning I also did the same. Things are looking better.

CTL has dropped from 94 to 75 since I fell ill :frowning: but I’m feeling better today and my goal is to eek out 2-3TSS on the trainer today. The thing about the bike that makes me curious is that I should have a much better idea of where I stand because everything is so quantitative. So maybe I get a couple TSS today, then a couple more tomorrow, etc. From everything I’m reading and hearing, it sounds like an average of 8 weeks to really fully recover.

So far it sounds like I’ve had a really mild version of this virus. Hopefully most of you are able to escape without it affecting your all too much as well.

Glad is the mild version and that you are on your way to recovery!

It could have been way worse.

For cases like this (and yours) is that i dont really feel safe yet

I just did it off the 70.3 plan and my base fitness from touring over the years! I’d recommend the century for anyone wanting to do it though.

I ended up doing the ramp today as well, less than ideal context to say the least - I have two fans but need aircon desperately, and a civilised amount of sleep.

FTP 258W → 264W

Not huge, but part of a positive trend these last nine months:

Test Date Plan Leading In 6 Week Avg TSS before Test FTP
15/06/2020 00:00 Sweet spot base MV1 278 264
26/04/2020 00:00 Sweet spot base LV2 257 258
23/03/2020 00:00 Olympic LV 119 252
05/02/2020 00:00 Zwift Tri Academy 152 247
01/01/2020 00:00 Respiratory illness 127 248
12/11/2019 00:00 Sweet spot base LV1 250 251
08/10/2019 00:00 Nothing 245
26/08/2019 00:00 Nothing 246

If not for a week of illness recently Id be averaging 330 on the bike, and SPB should take that to ~430

Oh damn. He lives just 20min North of me and I hadn’t heard that story yet. That article hit home in a number of different ways. Thanks for sharing it.

Just wanted to let you all know that the calcium alginate patches worked incredibly well. After 6 days my shoulder had new skin and my hip at day 8 is also perfectly recovered.
I don’t know if the collagen + vitamin C also were a big part of it.
Who knows…

Good to hear :+1:

How are you feeling?

Originally posted over on Slowtwitch, but not getting any feedback there yet so I’ll post here too. So I’m transitioning to doing my first full.

My HIM peak was just last weekend, I continued to train as usual during quarantine prepping for a cancelled Eagleman so I can see how my training plan would have gone if the event had happened.
Transition week now and currently sitting 13 weeks out from Ironman Maryland and wanted to get some insight/ feedback of my macro plan. (if the damn race happens!)
I’ll be doing my first full distance Ironman and expect to go sub 9

I swim with tower26 so swim planning is taken care of, and my pool is now open.

For the bike I am thinking 4 weeks vO2 progression starting at 1min repeats and ending at 3-4min. Lower volume than usual so I can get my swim back and build run mileage
4 weeks focusing on TTE @ ftp which is currently sitting at 332w 4.8w/kg
4 weeks muscular endurance. Long intervals at SS 80-90%
Volume already is not an issue as i ride 90-110 miles each weekend and plan to continue doing so as long as I feel it’s manageable.
French Alps training camp mid August(if we are allowed to enter the country)

For the run. I would say this is my weak point (excluding loss of fitness from simply not swimming for 3months).
I was prepping for an early April Marathon but that got cancelled so I have not yet done the full distance. Back then I was projecting and working towards 6:40/mile marathon. So I expect the IM run to be in the realm of 7-7:10? The last run race I completed was back in March for a 37:17 10k, and feel I could run sub 37 today. Struggling with motivation to run another on my own.
I am thinking of building E mileage for 3-4 weeks as I currently run 30-40mpw then progress there. I am just coming off a fresh threshold progression. 1 ‘workout’/week with 4-6 E miles warmup then a T interval block that progressed to 6mi total. Need some help with the later 8 weeks of planning here. Where in time should I peak mileage, and where should I focus marathon pace workouts.

Hey guys i have a question. I was wondering if all of you followed the run program from the triathlon plans if so i was wondering if that work for all of you or you guys use another program for running

Hello Ryan

Your plan seems sound as you describe it - you are clearly at the pointy tip of the spear. Hope the race happens and you nail the execution.

if i was going to throw out a piece of advice to make sure you don’t ramp to those T intervals to fast, its easy to get hurt (I am sure you know it, just a reminder), make sure to toe the line injury free.

Edit: also - again you are faster than me, and I am no coach, but in my experience I would want to do the marathon training peak about 4-5 weeks out, and then sharpen the knife with the speed work at the end prior to taper.

Best of luck
Mike

I’ve had 3-4 fittings. Every single one of them recommends a saddle change no matter what. I think they get either a kickback or it’s part of them renting the LBS space contract. “Especially on shorter rides” :joy::joy:. Every saddle is good for an hour!

@JoeX, there is no way I’m willing in a sane state to push that hard unless I’m doing a 40kk TT.

As far as races, I think stuff in Texas will happen. We are just crazy. I think FL will happen too. Things are opening up and even if cases increase, I really doubt the world can handle another shutdown without widespread protests. The next go around if the conditions get bad will be all elderly and at risk people stay home and self isolate while the rest go back to normal.

Hi @mayferman hows it been going this year?

Some do and some dont. I used the TR run plans last year but took out the intervals. This year Im integrating my own running based on Run Less Run Faster.

Cool, its sounds like you’re not using a TR plan?

If you’ve just peaked your Half training, Id do a simulation Half to gauge where you are - IMVC is running a virtual 70.3 this weekend and Rouvy seems to have fairly reallstic times if you want to do it indoors.

First Ironman, sub 9, nothing like aiming high eh? :slight_smile: Simulating a half this or next weekend should help that. Would it be your first half iron distance event?

The focus blocks on vo2, then threshold, then muscular endurance isnt an approach Im familiar with, I would be weaving a combination of vo2, sweet spot and endurance across the 12 weeks. Have you looked at FD LV and MV plans, and/or keeping your weekend rides?

Just found outs something else on Rouvy.

If you do a route you’ve done before (in Race Mode), you can race against your PB self as a Virtual Avitar. … Cool

Last night I raced myself in Switzerland … and I won :laughing:

I hope you did an impressive victory celebration in the pain cave :sweat_smile:

Yep - I fell off my bike and rolled round on the floor in Glory :rofl:

Boom! :rofl:

Good progress :raised_hands:

In this specific case, I got fitted using the ism saddle. She actually said a lot of her clients use them and I could get a newer one from them if I liked it.
I really never liked the ism saddle. It would cause weird pain down under. And I would definitely not be comfortable for 1hr. It was the opposite of comfortable.
This new saddle is comfortable for at least 1hr on the trainer and ok for the rest. So it did worked for me
That said. Probably any other sadlle would have also worked… So :man_shrugging:

I think Florida will reset the reopening soon. The cases are doubling up, and more than likely more people will start dying. But who knows. That might stay on track.

So far, there is a sprint tri series un central Florida that will apparently happen . First race is on June 26 I think.

Also the HIM seems to be on track and not cancelled… Time will tell