Tempo Zone (Zone 3 or 2 in polarized) - is it really not needed?

When i have ran running club sessions I have found that a lot of people run the slow runs in the lower half of tempo (ie too fast) and their fast runs in the upper half of tempo (ie too slow) tho. so they are not getting the full training effect. Fast should be fast and slow should be fast.

For running I am a fan of 8020. But on he bike I follow a TR plan