I NEVER look ahead. I you are dreading a workout for three days and doubting yourself for that amount of time, it is going to be hard to get it out of your head. When I open up the work for the day it is one of those “oh crap” workouts, I always just say “This will be interesting.”
Yeah, lets hope so (I bet AT is reading this, it will learn and the 3x 12m will be the suggestion, based on our comments 
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what would be really cool is that if it offers up 4x7 at 100% and you switch to 3x12 at 95-98%, then it will take that into account in the future for that progression.
That depends on whether the former and the latter are categorized under the same “system” in their model. If so, then indeed it can do that; if not, the AT model won’t consider it, no more than it would consider a VO2Max workout.
In other words - they have created a number of buckets, and the model treats each of these buckets separately.
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Totally agree. 8 min@40% is so long that you every interval is start from the beginning basically, and my observation is that anything longer than 5 min causes me to get out of “zone”. Not to mention I do not see any difference between 5 min and longer recovery in terms of physical performance. Sometimes even 5 minutes seems too long.
That sounds reasonable to me. If you can’t do 3x15 today, but go there through 4x7 etc over the course of a few weeks, isn’t that a win?
@sam.fuller1 good discussion up there, thanks for hanging in there
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I might be misrepresenting Adaptive Training here, but my fear is that - in the example where someone’s ramp test FTP is perhaps 102-3% of actual threshold - by the time you got to the point where 3x15 was possible, you’d have got fitter, re-tested with a better ramp test result, and be back to doing the shorter intervals again.
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From the progression example from Nate this would be the case. Basically ditching ramp test would be the best solution if you are not 100% sure it works for you. Honestly - 3x15, especially done a little under FTP should be workout doable by any person with proper cooling. And the progression from AT is in intensive route not extensive - also very important factor.
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Not read all the posts but to be honest, unless v fatigued…if can’t do 3x15 without dying…need to lower ftp…try longer 40 min test.
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I love the self talk chat, probably deserves a post all of its on, sometimes on hard and long intervals like this I sub divide them so many times it’s like inception. Like “only one minute to go until I’m half through the first part of the middle quarter…” or scrambled words like that 
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We’ve been there: Mantras - what's yours?
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