Go and do what the other rider did to take it back?
I guess I’m just picturing a dead flat, straight segment where a group can roll along at a very high rate but individuals will have no hope of competing.
I’ve lined up on the start line for XC races next to someone who decided to ride his CX bike. And that guy finished faster than I did. Nothing wrong with taking whatever bike you have on any ride you want.
Did you get that from my profile picture? (Same one on Strava)
Of course its ok- that was my point (not E-bikes though )
Some of the older/more popular segments around here are set so fast by prior windy days, groups, etc, I feel anything powered by legs goes - except the motorpacing or ebikes which is already forbidden per Strava rules. I’ve set a couple shared KOM with a riding buddy taking turns breaking the wind each mile on some longer ones.
Most of us notice a windy day and that damned segment running that way giving us a PITA pops to mind…
Last summer I lost a group of KOMs to a guy riding around on a motorcycle. Every ride he’d go on would show dozens of KOMs with speeds of 60+mph. Those I flagged without hesitation. There are a couple of MTB KOMs that I’ve lost recently where you can see the wheel prints from people cutting through a bunch of the corners and the KOM time drops by huge margins. Given that there’s no way to actually know for sure who’s cutting the corners I don’t flag those.
Why don’t groups work together more often to get KOMs?
Honestly because I don’t think most people care about KOMs unless it’s a hill or maybe a popular loop that lots of riders/groups do where it becomes somewhat meaningful.
I’ve got a handful of KOMs, mostly picked up by chance doing road races. Honestly have no pride in that - my “achievement” was being in a pack of 50 people and I guess I must have been near the back at the start of the segments and near the front at the end enabling me to nab KOM by a second or 2. Big deal. I’m a lot prouder of having a top 100 time on a popular local hill which >10,000 Strava users have gone up, and where top 10 would take close to 7W/kg for 6 minutes so is completely unachievable for me unless I take some EPO and ride up it with a 30mph tailwind.
Coming here to the TR Forum asking whether one should flag a rider for “accidental taking of the(ir) (Strava) KOM” = TDTE
TDTE
Take Dope To Excel?
To Die Takes Exercise?
Try Dancing, Then Eat?
It was a reply to the following from earlier in the thread:
HTFU = TDTE (the dumbest thing ever)
TDTE
So asking a question about a cycling platform that 99.99% of us use on a cycling forum is TDTE?
The 90% of people who gave constructive answers I don’t consider to be TDTE.
But the two people who gave stupid answers I kind of think is TDTE.
Oh - it’s also definitely not the only Strava related thread to have ever been started here. But I’m sorry if it offended you.
Not offended. However, I apologize as it seems you are offended. You are correct that this is a cycling related forum. Furthermore, as far as I know, TR does not limit us to what we discuss here as long as we keep it civil. Again, I apologize if it seemed a personal attack.
If anyone beats my KOMs then they must have been on a e-bike, so yeah, they’re getting flagged.
Strava KOMs are a great motivator - if someone “cheats” it kind of removes some of that motivation. So yeah, flag em.
That said - I wouldn’t flag the ride mentioned in the OPs thread as it is Strava’s problem not the rider’s.
What if the other guy who took the KOM didn’t knowingly cheat?
What if flagging him turned out to be a crushing blow for him, much like it is for the OP?
People take Strava far too seriously. As a platform it’s hugely overrated and the [KQ]oM tables are relatively easy to game. A rider locally to me rides with multiple GPS sources and uploads the one with the quickest times - when you’re gaming the GPS resolution you know you need to readdress your life priorities.
My take on the issue: If you compare the efforts and the other rider would have easily beaten you if they’d continued then it’s fair enough - if not, and it bothers you, flag it.
Oh my goodness! That escalated?
I guess one thing to bear in mind when posting on any forum is that there is always going to be differing points of view.
Anyone who posts a question, and expects everyone to give them the answer they wanted to hear, maybe is living in a parallel universe.
The OP wanted opinions and he got opinions. He may not have liked all of them, but hopefully all the opinions gave him food for thought.
Now I need to search and try to figure out how to unfollow topics so I can stop reading about KOM’s and get back to reading about useful stuff like training.
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TDTE? I’m not up on the vernacular.