Speedplay / Wahoo March 16, 2021 Announcement [Power Meter Pedals?]

If you had to guess at the price DC?

Watch the video. He talks about it.

He guessed ~$1k in the video…

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What makes speedplay special? As I understand they have more adjustability than Shimano/LOOK and particularly popular among people with injuries/unique fitting characteristics and are double sided.

What else do they do that would be more appealing to someone who doesn’t NEED the extra tweak-ability coming from Shimano or LOOK? Just curious

For me, it is the instant engagement…no more fumbling around, trying to find the nose of the pedal and then pushing down to engage the pedals.

Dual sided means I just get my foot on the pedal, click in and go…

And it isn’t the “adjustability”…it is the amount of float and the feel of it. There is no automatic recentering to it and there is also the no friction to the movement. A wholly different feel than any pedal out there.

The lightweight is a nice bonus. (Yeah, I know…the cleats are heavier)

I’ve been on them literally since day one…except for a few years in the early 2010’s when I was doing tri’s. Tried almost every pedal system out there…always come back to Speedplay.

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I love how easy it is to change cleats. There is never guesswork to have the cleats in the same place every time. Since its separate X and Y axis screws, there is never the fiddle of nailing the new cleats in the same place.

There is also a shit load of float, and there is no restriction in the float, so the pedal doesn’t “push back” from the float if that makes sense.

Like @Power13 said, no recentering :slight_smile:

I have leg length issues, so need 6mm shim under my right leg, so in that sense, speedplay has been a life saver!

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Same for me. My knees are terrible and I really value the completely free float rather than recentering. Definitely not a pedal for everyone and if I could get away with it, it would be much cheaper with bog standard Shimano offerings. I do use SPDs on my mtb though as they feel much less restrictive than SPD-SL.

Interesting stuff. I find my Assiomas tend to have less auto recentering compared to the SPD-SL I used to use, but still there a bit. I definitely like the look of the speedplay though, and a new set of power pedals (one that actually exists) on the market will be good for everyone.

whoops, my mistake!

Thanks Power!

Was expecting it to be pricey. I watched most the video but… well sorry DC, too much content to get through these days, attention span isn’t what it used to be :slight_smile:

Re: Speedplays - it’s one of those things, some people love them, some people just don’t get on well with them at all.

For me, I rode in regular Look pedals for a couple years then gave Speedplays a shot. It ws a revelation. I can and will never go back to anything else again aside from MTB style cleats for off-road (I’d even still prefer Speedplay there if they make a new version for that).

Everything is faster and easier for me.

Popular in the TT and triathlon market as they have lowest stack height on the market which can help getting into a more aero position (effectively like switching to shorter cranks to open up hip angle, but cheaper and less hassle) and they also test as the most aero pedal/cleat combo.

Pedal stack height does not actually alter hip angle on it’s own. No matter the pedal height, it is the same distance from the top of the pedal while at the bottom of the stroke to the top of the pedal at the top of the stroke. That top of pedal distance to the other pedal top is exactly the crank arm length doubled, no matter how tall or short the pedal stack.

Low pedal stack DOES allow for lower saddle height, all else being equal, than a taller stack height. But we are talking about maybe 5mm delta, so not really notable, IMO.

Assuming you swap from a tall pedal stack to a low pedals stack, adjust saddle height to match that drop, and leave the rest of the bike alone, this will decrease saddle to bar/pad drop, which effectively opens hip angle a tiny bit. But that’s lots of conditions, and what people actually do as a result of lower pedal stack can and will vary. If they drop the bars to match the saddle drop (not uncommon), they kill the “opening” aspect entirely and just lowered the rider as a whole.

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You’re correct, just realised it would only be like shortening cranks if your foot went upside down at the bottom of the pedal stroke!

Think 5mm when it comes to saddle height and effective crank length at the top of the stroke may be more significant than you think though. “Lowering the rider as a whole” is a pretty good way to get more aero.

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For clarity, the “5mm” I listed was a pure guestimate. I have no idea what the functional difference in pedal stack actually is. Could be less, could be more.

But yes, if dropping the entire rider happens, it is usually a positive change WRT aero drag, so could be very worthwhile for those seeking the finest improvements. :smiley:

Got them in the mail today.
The added sealing ring on the platform has definitely added some weight. Feeling wise, they are the same as the old ones (obviously).
The biggest upset here for me, is that it still uses the stupid 4 hole adapter, for shoes that no one on earth has, and that the screws used (for the cleats, and float adjustment) are still super flimsy, soft metal and with a tiny Phillips, that even the smallest park tool screw driver doesn’t fit into properly.
Why didn’t they change that in the 18 months since the acquisition.

The new black aero covers look good, better than the yellow before.

I will use these for training, but not for races. A little upsetting.

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Why not races?

Have you had a chance to ride them, and do they feel any difference to the old Speedplays?

No different.

Well, the only advantage I can find is longevity and they are heavier. Makes sense to use the lighter ones I have for races…

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Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.