Wow has it been 2 months now that we’ve been waiting for this?
Our developers are currently hard at work bringing the Calendar functionality into the apps, so this feature is still on the backburner for now 
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Since there is another monthe gone, do you have any news on this?
Maybe also a myfitnespal link? 
I know the wait is tough, but developing new apps is a time consuming process and that is our main focus for now. We now have a publically availiable Beta for the Desktop Apps and we are using user feedback to perfect it and get it ready for production. Then, we will direct our attention to improving the Mobile Apps.
Support for Run and Swim is an important feature that we do plan to implement, but we have some major projects that need to be finished before we focus our resources towards development of multi-sport support.
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I’ve given up waiting
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Hey @AndrewL,
I totally understand your frustration. It really is important to us and we feel it would add a lot of value to our multisport users, but we also have other important projects in the works, and only so many engineers. A few major projects include:
- New Desktop Apps with Calendar Functionality
- New Mobile Apps with Calendar Functionality
- Outside workouts with the ability to push workouts to your head units
And a few more that we are not ready to announce yet. These may seem simple but from an engineering standpoint, but they are highly intensive and require a lot of concentrated development energy.
Software development is a fickle thing, and it’s really tough to give an exact release date because some projects finish months ahead of schedule, and others months behind schedule. Bugs can hold things up considerably, and we don’t want to put a suggested date out there, and then disappoint anyone.
What I can say though, is that this feature is not currently being worked on, and is prioritized behind some other big projects. Sadly, that means that the release date is pretty far in the future.
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That’s not what I wanted to hear
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I appreciate the challenges in developing software (I work in the SaaS world myself) and I also understand TR’s dependency on Strava / Garmin API limitations to pull in the data needed to automate updates to the calendar instead of relying upon manual input. However, @AndrewL raised a valid frustration about the positioning of the calendar specifically for triathletes by @Nate_Pearson and TR.
I recently renewed for another year to continue supporting TR (even though I spend most of my trainer time on another training platform) and because I would “very soon” be able to manage my runs alongside my cycling on TR rather than TrainingPeaks.
I’m genuinely happy to continue supporting TR but don’t really want hear more promises being made in the forum or podcast about how great the calendar is for cyclists and multi-sport athletes. Right now, it’s really only useful for cyclists.
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I’ve cancelled my TR subscription for exactly this reason. When the calendar is suitable for triathletes I might come back.
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What does “pretty far in the future.” means? 6 months to one year? not in 5 years time? next century? Is that so impossible, to give any broad reference? It’s not irrelevant.
I am sorry, but if you can’t give any broad quantification, and all you can say is that it “is pretty far in the future”, then it will be a little hard to believe it is important to trainerroad… 2+2=4, right?
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As I mentioned, we can’t give out specific time-frames because sometimes priorities change, other opportunities present themselves, or projects take longer than expected. Any of those scenarios can significantly affect the time-frame in which a feature will be ready for production.
You may notice that even when features that are 99% complete, we never announce the release date ahead of time. When we are working on it, we may drop hints but we never give dates or timeframes. When it is available for Beta Testing, we will announce that here in the forum. When it is ready for production, we will announce that to all of our users via email or within the app itself. But we never release these dates in advance, regardless of how important the feature is.
I’m really sorry I can’t be more specific.
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Thank you for you time, but I don’t know what to think really.
Your answer is basically semantics (sorry, it is what it is).
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I agree with you 100%.
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Thank you for your honesty!
I, for one, understand completely. While it’s frustrating as a Triathlete, I totally understand from a Project Manager standpoint how you want to give people info on what’s coming down the pipeline but can’t set a date on when something will happen. It makes sense to be upfront and honest and not to promise more than you can deliver.
Keep up the good work!
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This.
Well put!
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The problem is that you guys introduced the calendar in a broken state and then leave it broken until other projects are taken care of.
Just like you wouldn’t introduce a desktop app and not fix the bugs on it before moving on, you shouldn’t introduce a calendar that is incomplete and move on from it.
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Calender certainly isn’t ‘broke’, it works excellently. It just doesn’t have one feature that you (and most multi-sport athletes including myself) would like.
However runs/swims etc can be manually added - more hassle yes, but doable.
Everything in software development is a decision on prioritisation and at the moment other advances are more important (as someone who only uses the desktop app, I’m really pleased and excited about these improvements).
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Minmimum. Viable. Product.
And then you iterate on it.
If you keep waiting to have your product at 100% all the time, nothing gets released for extra long periods of time and people get more disgruntled at not having anything over a long period of time. And by the time the 100% happens you’ve missed out on a whole lot of consumers that have gone to the competitor or the market has changed and that extra 20% already has to be iterated on to make it current.
So basically companies get a product at 80% and keep improving it to get closer to the 100%…but since the market keeps moving you never truly get to 100% but you always try to improve and adapt and innovate as much as possible within your scope.
Source: multiple attempts from my very conservative company to try to brainwash us into agile methodology
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I understand. However at its current state, it’s completely unusable for a multi sport athlete.
- the calendar doesn’t allow me to change the bike portion of a tri plan. It’s a PIA to change workouts individually.
- I already know the tss total for my week on the bike is going to be. It’s on the plan. So not sure what I can learn from tracking it.
- there is no way I’m logging in my workouts. The whole point of having gps devices that connect via Bluetooth and WiFi is so that you don’t have to do scut work like this.
Because of these, the calendar is useless for me and other multisport athletes. I have to use TP to do all that which is a shame because the UI of the TR calendar is great and I can see a lot of potential.
You may say, “well, TR is training tool company and it’s not TP.” Ok, then why spend time and effort to introduce a calendar and analysis tool, when you can do that on TP?
You may say, “majority of users are cyclists.” I would say at minimum, 30% of users at minimum are triathletes. Maybe our census on this forum may not show that but there are many of us that use TR and would want these features.
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