Great addition.
Before I turn on “aggressive mode” will TR learn that I’m okay over time? I presume not if it’s analysed my history already.
Think I’m going to work with default and my training over the last three weeks of build before changing the settings. I suspect it’s always going to consider my bike/swim/bike days as too much work. But maybe it’s right.
Next week is the last week of the 3rd base block on MV Master’s. Before RLGL, I moved my Saturday threshold workout to Friday (so Tues VO2max, W/Th endurance for 4 days in a row) because of 4 days without any workouts at all and then only 3 scheduled recovery workouts. I’m planning on doing it no matter what, but would already having 4 off-days be accounted for, or am I likely to get a red light no matter what?
Same race, the same basic color pattern. As an amateur cyclist, do you think it’s possible to do an event like BCBR and not be in the red part way through the week? It does seem like you did a lot of intensity right before the race. Anyway, I definitely wasn’t checking my TR calendar during the race - I knew I was suffering by day 3. I see this is a great training aid though.
@Nate_Pearson I really appreciate this feature and quickly put the slider all the way to the right since I am doing increased volume relative to my training history. It has been working out and I have been able to recover properly.
With that being said I feel like the conversative, balanced, and aggressive descriptors along with the “do you priortize recovery or can you mange burnout” blurb could be too ambigious for a user to decide. I do wonder if there is any way we could somehow make it a more objective calculus for the user to decide how they should set training approach.
Without knowing what gets fed into the RLGL computation I do wonder if prompts like the following could be helpful:
“If you plan to do x TSS per week, do x training approach”
“If you plan to do x hours per week, do x training approach”
“If you plan to do x days of intervals, do x training approach”
I understand that RLGL might ultimately not work in a way where a user could decide the training approach based on a number or a range of numbers. But any more direction or guidance on which approach to pick would be much appreciated.
Per Nate in response to my similar question, RLGL doesn’t take into account your future workout schedule when determining its rating of a specific day.
So said another way: you very well could have one or more of the work days you are planning scored as red
That’s what I wasn’t clear about–whether there’s a difference in how it would interpret a subsequent recovery week
vs 3-4-5 or more days where there was nothing at all scheduled (which could be considered “extra recovery than normal”
Nice times!
No I don’t, and Nate/TR have since incorporated the stage race context in guidance for what actions make sense from RLGL.
Yep I definitely had high activity levels before the race as my main draw card for this international trip was Squamish and coast /island, rather than the interior where my Covid deferred ticket was valid for. No regrets, it was all rad and my performance was surprisingly good.
This is not totally true. I did a workout and it turned the next day RED. I declined the adaptation and a few hours later the next day was YELLOW.
I recently started adding more volume now that work has calmed down, so maybe the recent change effected it. 
RLGL is still in beta. Those of us using it are testing a feature that’s still in development. Expect some weird shit to happen before it goes to full release. It’s possible that some back-end changes/refinements had been made between those two moments & contributed to the change in recommendation. You’re probably on the cusp of red/yellow in this situation.
That’s an error/bug and should be reported to TR support. RLGL should not change from Red to Yellow over a few hours.
I’d say you must have been pretty well prepared if after 3 consecutive red days a >2 hour >100TSS stage 5 was considered easy enough by the algorithm to drop you back to yellow for stage 6!
Looking back at my training camps and stage races, once I’m into the red I don’t come back out of it until I’m finished and have a day off.
Since RLGL also evaluates past days I was curious what it made of me cycling to Paris (four days ~ 800km) and then riding Paris - Brest - Paris (1200km).
I’m somewhat surprised that the 26th was already a “green” day again!
Nice!! That’s good to know and thanks for the confirmation 
I’ve seen the exact same for some of the years I’ve done Rapha Festive 500: 5 or 6 Red days, followed by maybe 1 yellow day, and then back to green. Which really calls into question the recommendation to not train on a red day, if the system thinks training on multiple red days in a row can be overcome with one day off like this from Dec 2019:
It would just be a matter of having regular training volume/intensity that matches the stage race. Most races are efforts that would trigger a red day, but they are planned overreaches that should have a taper before and recovery after.
I did a 5-day mtb stage race (Trans-Sylvania Epic. In the run-up, I had 2 three week blocks around 700TSS each week leading up to the race and a two week taper. Those blocks had many yellow training days, and pretty much every Monday (day off) was red. At the race Stage 2&3 were yellow days, then 4&5 were red. It was pretty much telling me that after 250 TSS in the openers + day 1 to take a break and after 600 in 4 days I should take a day off of training. That would have been the right call 51 weeks of the year, even though I crushed stages 4 & 5 that last morning I felt flu-like symptoms from fatigue. This wasn’t a big deal because I had planned 2 weeks off training after the race, but RLGL knew exactly the hole I was digging and that it would derail planned training. My training history has many good weather weekends where after T/Th workouts I had a Friday fun ride then two long weekend rides (yellow and red day) followed by skipped workouts the next week (whoops).
Love this.
Feature request:
Can you add a gif of Scotty pleading “She cannae take it Cap’n!!”
No? Just me and my generation then. I’m off to the meme thread…
I’ll sleep when I’m dead.
No, honestly I’ll take a rest day. This time I will. Honest.
Does this setting affect both RLGL and PL at the same time?
So that an aggressive approach means higher thresholds for triggering yellow/red as well as quicker progressing the PL from workout to workout?
Or does it only mean one of these 2 options?
It would be nice if there was a quantitative score exposed along with the status. I get the appeal of a ternary status with specific recommended actions for each color, but the reality is that the underlying status in on a continuum. It would be helpful to know if you were barely in the red/yellow or deep into those buckets based on a quantitative score to help inform training decisions. If I’m yellow and right at the edge of yellow/red, that might drive a different action vs. being barely in yellow and nearly green. I like the way Oura handles this, they give you both a readiness score and a corresponding status/bucket. I think woop is similar with both the score and corresponding bucket the score falls in. You don’t even need to make the number the lead story, just give folks who want more detail a way to better understand where they fall within the bucket. Maybe when you hover over the warning, the message could include the underlying value in addition to the current generic message “you training stress is high”.
+1 for this as an Overthinking Cyclist. 
I found myself in this position. 1½h threshold yesterday which I delayed by a day because I was still a bit cooked from Sunday, & today was green. Yesterday after threshold I went straight out for a jog where I took 20 minutes to cover 3.3km, at a heart rate similar to riding around 70-75%. According to Sauce for Strava, tTSS = 15, so not hard. When I uploaded the run, today turned yellow.
Today I did the 2h sweetspot workout prescribed for this week, which was classed as “Productive” (+0.2). Yes it was hard but still quite manageable. But from my history, I know I’ll get away with that most times. I wouldn’t try a stretch workout, nor would I try a shorter, more intense workout, & I certainly wouldn’t try a VO2 max workout, such as the one actually scheduled for today that I’ll now do Saturday. Swapping days to move the less intense ride to the yellow day, or staying in the same training zone but reducing intensity & progression level, might both be more appropriate adaptations for someone just crossing the threshold into a yellow day.
…You’re overthinking this.
Sorry - it had to be said!
This isn’t telling you what you can do. It’s indicating what you should do. Left to their own devices and metrics, athletes beat themselves up too much. Give them a data feed and their own choice on how to tweak things and…they’ll continue to beat themselves up.
It needs to be clear, objective and from a trusted source to have an impact on behaviours.
