Feed the machine, ride through red days, got it…
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Not sure if related to the new feature, but developed a small issue tonight. Earlier today, after allowing a few adaptations, I got early access to RLGL. Tonight I noticed my mobile app is calling for nine additional adaptations while the web page is not. I let support know and they are checking into it with their team to see if it’s related. In the meantime I’ll be keeping my plan as is until I hear from them in 24-48 hours.
Just in case anyone else notices the same. Carry on!
Is there any possibility of this being implemented in some fashion in the iOS TR apps, and I’m the Windows App? I use the Windows App on a PC laptop to run TR and control my Tacx Neo 2T. I often use TR on my iPad or iPhone to make adjustments to my calendar and change workouts. It would be great to see red light/green light signals on the Apps’ calendars, and not have to log in to the TR website to see them. A small yellow, red or green dot by the date would be perfect.
I just checked the app on my iphone and it is showing yellow or red boxes in Calendar. Mine is working.
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I see RLGL on the app both on my iPhone and iPad. Did you check to ensure the app is updated?
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@Nate_Pearson assuming one has a powermeter is there any utility in continuing to wear a HRM strap for RLGL, or adaptive training more generally?
It just showed up on my iPad. Maybe it takes some time once it has been activated in the online settings. It wasn’t visible on the Win 11 PC I use with my trainer and TR. Hopefully it will be there tomorrow?
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@Nate_Pearson @ming im curious, is this current iteration of RLGL the algorithmic approach or the ML approach? In Nate’s update video from awhile back he said the ML approach had a 91% change of predicting overtraining, was that validated?
Corner case that RLGL doesn’t currently handle: workout / rides at elevation where the power / TSS / etc is artificially low. For an example look at my June 24 to 30, 2017 - this was Haute Route Mavic Rockies all at elevations above 5,000 ft and I live at sea level. None of the days are even yellow, even the 8 hour day, let alone red
Yes the IFs are stupidly low - 9.5 range - but that’s because I suffered massively with the elevation
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Just want to thank the team as this is an amazing new feature that I already love. Red light/white light is simply fantastic!
Joe
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Totally noticed this as well, it’s tough to measure the actual toll on the body riding rough terrain at altitude but I bet it’ll improve over time.
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If your A race is a one day event and it falls on a red day, or you had a bunch of red days immediately before your A event then both of those signal something massively wrong with your taper and I fully think RLGL should inform you of that. I understand the concern about it marking all the days in a stage race as red as I saw the same in my calendar but I don’t think this is a bad thing either.
A red day is telling me that based on my training history I have not recovered enough from my recent training stimulus for additional stimulus to be productive. This is true during a stage race for almost everyone. You’re not getting productively faster each day, you’re digging a hole.
I get that this might freak some people out and if they want to give an option to turn it off for stage races then that’s fine with me, but I prefer it on. The truth will set you free.
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@Nate_Pearson mentioned that a Tour de France rider did not have one red day (and they have some pretty tough stages) through the whole tour. Perhaps red days are an indication that training was insufficient leading up to the event and you are stretching beyond what you are prepared for?
Personally, I’d be less concerned with red days during the event (nothing you can do about it now) and then once the event is over address the training leading up to the event for future events.
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You need to update the app from the store. I updated mine and it works.
Hey,
In my opinion, RGLG is a very good additional metric for understanding whether the selected plan/intensity/modality or sequence of workouts are what do you need at this given moment. But one must understand, that this is an add-on, not the artificial personal trainer with human touch (despite of someone expectations).
Every athlete must understand that there is no point in hoping that if you try to tweak the algorithm from every angle by adding/reducing rides, changing modalities, etc., then every time the system will give a 100% answer in such a way that the athlete is satisfied and does not even have to think. Exercising and the physical activity as per se are not just a mechanical, rational behaviour where you don’t have to have your own brain. The system is not aware of additional factors such as nervous system stress or muscle stress or other subjective factors. For sure, adding feedback is necessary to have a certain outcome (further adaptations of the workouts), but it has its limitations.
Therefore, first you have to think for yourself, and look for help and support from the algorithm, not the other way around.
It seems to me that no matter what TR comes up with, in order to improve the user experience, there are always hordes of people asking why there is XYZ instead of ABC and why all kinds of other things have not been taken into account.
Maybe it’s some kind of modern approach, that if you pay 20 USD per month (5 beers), you have to get another brain, body, and the someone (the system) will do the workout, but you will have the adaptations.
Sorry, but I don’t get this attitude. And I don’t understand where these expectation comes from.
In my opinion, you should embrace these constant updates and additional functionalities with gratitude, train consistently and see the big picture, and not chasing next hour adaptations just to tweak these again and again.
And if TR solution doesn’t fit, then you have to admit first to yourself that maybe you still can’t do it, bcs there is a fault in the system.
Next step is go online and buy a 100 USD template plan and follow it, and just to say that the plan is shitty, and buy the next plan, etc.
In short, less fuss, more work.
TR is a fantastic tool, and please learn how to use it as supplemental functionality.
And if anyone feels offended, I apologize in advance.
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Before I resubscribe to TR, I’d just like to know if I’ve got this right.
If I do an unstructured 3 hour outside ride but incorporate the 3 x 10 Sweet Spot intervals in it that AT had prescribed for the day, and associate that ride with the workout, AT will “count” the workout in my plan and RLGL will “count” the whole ride to help assess my overall fatigue & readiness.
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I can confirm no its not.
Green day > 2hr15 PL 6.0 endurance ride > still green > 2nd session…11km progressive Threshold run (no tss asigned) turned the following day yellow.
Suggested change from a 8.8 sweet spot ride to a level 5.0 endurance ride. I would not have accepted (its similar most weeks) but had a bad nights sleep so accepted the change. Glad I did, wonder if the next days will be better now.
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Looking at my data, consistency seems to be the key, l’ve had in the past higher volume for months on end (not quite tdf volume 
) and things have been mostly green (white) but going back further (and based only on HR data) lots of red show up for lower volumes after periods of what might be inconsistent training.
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Wrong thread, in fact I would skip the forum and email any questions direct to support for best answers - but in short, yes.
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Thats my understanding. TR based on your subjective survey will include it as a pass or fail in your AT (with no detail analysis) but the whole ride will be included for RLGL analysis.