Yeah, the hard part is definitely avoiding putting in an effort on a climb or something because the legs feel good and you’re just riding comfortably.
I have just finished a Sweet Spot Base MidVolume 2…should I follow with a Build plan or a Polarized plan? No race ahead, just to improve a lot and crush weekend friends 
You can use the polarized build plan, get TrainerRoad more data, get faster in the process
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Indeed. The only time I can sustain near-FTP levels for lengthy periods is on hill climbs (real or simulated).
Looking at the polarised plans (e.g. mid volume) it strikes me that many will swap the Sunday ride for outdoors, and I really can’t imagine myself being able to stick to Z1 for that length of time, particularly if there are hills involved.
Yeah, I don’t think long trainer rides are really that bad once you get your entertainment dialed. It’s actually sort of a peaceful time for me where I can just zone out, play some games, and burn three thousand calories before Sunday lunch.
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And the rest of the house knows it’s “me time”, so I can actually watch a race or a movie in peace.
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Are you playing video games? If yes I am interested in your setup to hold you position on bike while holding a controler 
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Just realised my POL plans look different on calendar to the plans now on the app. Did they get changed again recently?
After the update and official release I added the HV POL plan, and it gave me a lot of 2min type intervals. Now I looked again and it’s the 4x8 4x4 workouts again early in the week (which I prefer by the way). Just wondering what happened.
Mine looks like this in the second half
Maybe they’re AB testing.
Yeah, I mean it seems like it would vary so wildly based on terrain that I always thought zone 2 rides (I guess we’re calling them Z1 now) were a silly application of the outside workout feature. Outside workouts are great because some interval workouts are too long for my stem (I’m short!), but when it’s zone 2 time, I just make sure my Garmin has Z2 time on display and I go and ride until that’s showing the right time. Great motivation for staying on target on climbs and descends, too, because you don’t want that timer to stop ticking away.
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Noticed this today as well. Should I remove my just started POL plan and replace it with the new one? Or whats the reason for the change?
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Just had both versions on my calendar there side by side to compare. Really is mostly just the intensity days that changed. I’ve deleted the older one with 2min intervals and went with the new one.
I’ve the 6 week mid volume POL plan in my calendar and that’s now completely different when you look at it via the Plans page on the website. Gone are the really hard 2min intervals at 130% to be replaced by 4min intervals just over threshold. The other hard interval day has seen the 16min @102% become 8min@102%
I am. I mostly play “slay the spire” which is a rogue like card game so I can just hold a wireless controller in one hand. It sounds pretty clunky, but it’s not actually a problem. I’ve also spent a lot of time playing switch and being able to play with the split joycons makes things a lot easier.
I do think playing an FPS or similar game that requires quick inputs would be quite a bit more difficult.
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Interestingly it looks like they’ve done away with the 2 minute intervals in the 8 week HV plan but not in the 6 week HV plan
6 week progression still has the 2 minutes - they progress from 6 at 124%, 9 at 124%, and 12 at 126%.
I also do better with the longer intervals like currently exist in the 8 week plan, but am willing to give it a shot
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I thought about playing “football manager” on the trainer but it requires some accurate clicking to navigate in the game. I still haven’t find a game which is engaging to me but also easy in the inputs required.
@Jonathan, the plans look good, I think I will try the HV version. However, may I ask why did you choose 2 mins interval as the go to for Tuesday workout of the Base phase? (except for wk1 and wk2).
Maybe it is splitting hairs, but I had always heard/read that for aerobic/VO2max development better target intervals longer than 3 min. I would rather reserve the intervals shorter than 2 minutes for when race day approaches.
I will have a go anyway! Without having done them yet to me they look like good plans!
I have just noticed that polarized plan have less TSS than build med volume 2 plan, so I’m unsure to choose polarized build plan… or can I get fitter with less TSS???
TSS isn’t the goal.
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TSS only describe progression and training load. By no means they are indicator of performance.
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