As the plans are in beta and polarized training is not exactly a well defined methodology my guess is they are being conservative about it. No good comes from burning people out before plans are finalized.
Also consider once AT rolls out the base plan won’t be as significant as it is now
There’s no solution to that question that doesn’t upset a camp. Either you add lots more Z1 to bump up TSS and people complain they don’t have time, or you add more intensity days, which deviates from the POL study…
Either this works for people or it won’t, but it’s what people have been asking for.
Looking forward to the summer once people have had time to complete these plans and see if there’s any FTP gains.
Personally either way I think these are the perfect platform to build on. Keep adding Z1 for a more base phase. Then start adding tempo on one day and progressing on long blocks there too. Current thinking anyway. Maybe one week super long Z1 Sunday ride, next week mega tempo effort. Will see!
Having been off a plan for a while, and just doing lots of rides at LT1 (ie easy rides), I’ve found I’m able to handle crazy amounts of TSS, in the 600-800/week range, and I feel fine. I definitely could not handle that with higher intensity. I think adding TSS with easy rides ends up being not that fatiguing, which I think is the point. 2 hours at 60%ish FTP is pretty easy (boredom is likely the hard part.)
Indeed. The only time I can sustain near-FTP levels for lengthy periods is on hill climbs (real or simulated).
Looking at the polarised plans (e.g. mid volume) it strikes me that many will swap the Sunday ride for outdoors, and I really can’t imagine myself being able to stick to Z1 for that length of time, particularly if there are hills involved.
Yeah, I don’t think long trainer rides are really that bad once you get your entertainment dialed. It’s actually sort of a peaceful time for me where I can just zone out, play some games, and burn three thousand calories before Sunday lunch.
Just realised my POL plans look different on calendar to the plans now on the app. Did they get changed again recently?
After the update and official release I added the HV POL plan, and it gave me a lot of 2min type intervals. Now I looked again and it’s the 4x8 4x4 workouts again early in the week (which I prefer by the way). Just wondering what happened.
Yeah, I mean it seems like it would vary so wildly based on terrain that I always thought zone 2 rides (I guess we’re calling them Z1 now) were a silly application of the outside workout feature. Outside workouts are great because some interval workouts are too long for my stem (I’m short!), but when it’s zone 2 time, I just make sure my Garmin has Z2 time on display and I go and ride until that’s showing the right time. Great motivation for staying on target on climbs and descends, too, because you don’t want that timer to stop ticking away.
I’ve the 6 week mid volume POL plan in my calendar and that’s now completely different when you look at it via the Plans page on the website. Gone are the really hard 2min intervals at 130% to be replaced by 4min intervals just over threshold. The other hard interval day has seen the 16min @102% become 8min@102%
I am. I mostly play “slay the spire” which is a rogue like card game so I can just hold a wireless controller in one hand. It sounds pretty clunky, but it’s not actually a problem. I’ve also spent a lot of time playing switch and being able to play with the split joycons makes things a lot easier.
I do think playing an FPS or similar game that requires quick inputs would be quite a bit more difficult.
I thought about playing “football manager” on the trainer but it requires some accurate clicking to navigate in the game. I still haven’t find a game which is engaging to me but also easy in the inputs required.