New Wahoo ROLLR Trainer spotted at ITT Worlds

Would be interesting to see what that total number is broken down by trainer vs. on-board PM.

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@dcrainmaker

Have you thought of throwing the roller unit on something like the MP1 or another rocker plate?

cause it’d be really cool if it would work on it. Tho that price still is…ugh

I was first scheming on how to put the cargo bike on it without breaking it…

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Hehehe. For science!

But i’d wonder with the MP1’s modular riser plate for the front wheel, that should match the actual level of the rollers. Then you could anchor the rollers down some way…

Just a thought. I’ve been debating putting the Omnium on my MP1 when I got it this past week but I realize I left it in another country so I can’t try just yet!

You’d want to remove the riser block entirely, and mount the Rollr in reverse of the typical bike/trainer combo.

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I’d love to see someone try this. If only for my amusement

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I believe that’s pretty much my entire purpose in life.

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You know it is going to be a good day when you wake up and see notifications for a total of FOUR new videos from @gpl and @dcrainmaker. Great videos gentlemen.

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Supporting it at the top would be more stable. If it’s supported at the bottom it’ll be much easier to rock the front of the bike back and forth despite the wheel being fixed in place.

Ok…I have yet to watch any of the reviews. But, is there a reason you’d want to use this over normal rollers?

Especially if its aimed at the pro market…surely most pros can ride rollers.

Maybe the market is those people with so little mechanical skills that they are afraid of taking the wheels out. Or riding rollers.

…and then gyms will buy them, and people will drive their bikes to the gym, to ride on them… :roll_eyes:

I believe it’s purely the convenience of how quickly it is to put your bike on/off. I guess it would be less wearing on tyres too?

It’s odd though, as you say it’s got great potential in a training space, but @dcrainmaker said something about needing a Power Meter, or some such thing, he wasn’t clear.

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You do need a power meter - while the rollr can control resistance, it doesn’t know what power your putting out, unless you have a power meter.

Now, after reading it (hah!), I think the appeal is that you can zwift on it. The competition market is something like the elite emotion smart rollers (or whatever they are called), which explains the price point.

Yes, it’s BYO power meter.

I feel somewhat underwhelmed by the ROLLR.

First you have to BYO power meter.
Then it doesn’t act like normal rollers, though this no doubt is for safety reasons and also to attract non roller, sorry, ROLLR riders. A bit of a halfway house if you wish.

I think they missed a beat with the solution they came up with to allow the bike to rock. They rely on flex in the forks and wheel when the same a frame could have created a yoke around the head tube and had sprung buffers to allow the bike to lean.

For the price that it is, and then still having to purchase a PM then you start getting too costly.

I’ll give it a C+.

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yep - definitely looks like a solution trying to find a problem to me. I say that as a rollers fan and user as well.

@gpl laid out the only use cases that made sense to me. Track race, world tour, and time trial warmups. Or people who really hate taking off their rear wheel for the trainer.

It just seems like a niche product to me. Since you need your own power meter it certainly doesn’t seem like it’s targeted for the masses. I know lots of people have power meters now but there are plenty of people who don’t who just want something to use so they can ride on zwift so Kickr snap makes sense.

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I may be missing something but isn’t the ROLLR design driven by having to combine the functionality of rollers with smart trainer resistance. If the back end floats, do you need the front end as secure as the back end of a direct drive trainer or an old wheel on trainer? When the trainer is changing resistance in erg mode or simulating grade changes, does the front end needs to be secure? I am not suggesting their solution is optimal as it doesn’t address steering, all bike sizes or 650b wheels, but I don’t known if securing the bottom of the front wheel would be work.

I think the design could be evolved into a less expensive non-smart travel option like the Feedback Sports Omnium and a higher end option with a second generation KICKR CLIMB that is closer in functionality to the Elite Rizer

Overall, the ROLLR moves away from the smart bike trend back to bring your bike (and power meter). I wonder how many enthusiasts will be in the dedicated smart bike/dedicated trainer bike set up camp vs. switching from outdoor to indoor and vice versa with one bike. For many of us, there may be no going from
the quiet direct drive trainers and smart bikes (so we can listen to our Lasko fans). Based on @dcrainkaker’s review, the ROLLR doesn’t seem like a good fit for virtual racing.

No doubt the ROLLR may appeal to a subset of roller enthusiasts and some first time trainer users who buy the ROLLR with power meter pedals. But it does reduce the friction of having to deal with cassettes and axles on direct drive trainers.

I think there is a market for this things…
I can see a company with 3 or 4 renting the use of them since its super easy to put/remove a bike and works with every single bike out there and no need to change anything or remove anything.
Plus at races, most people will be using external PM anyways.

is the feedback omnium trainer that difficult to swap out adapters for the fork? It’s not like there’s 100s of front mount options. And the omnium is far cheaper and more portable.