thanks….i assume you mean 6 not 60
lol
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I’m looking for a new bike computer and was going to buy the 540 through REI to use up my member points but it sold out before I could pull the trigger!
I could also be an outlier.
I still can’t wrap my head around the fact why both wahoo and garmin make these huge bezels, put screen there or shrink the device!
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Is the concrete cracked?
Both the concrete and the ACE survived with minimal to no damage, though the concrete was red. Very red.
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So as a manufacturer of kinda similar products (a electronic device that uses an LCD screen over the top of a number of operating components / PCB board), I can hazard a few guesses.
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Cost. It is cheaper to buy LCD screens that are at pre-set dimensions form an LCD screen supplier.
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Space limitations. You may need more space underneath for the required internal components than the screen can cover…or the screen in a size you want is too expensive. So you design around a “smaller” screen with enough internal room for the needed components.
Again, these are all guesses. But I have certainly run into these issues with our devices in the past and had to design around them.
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Compare the roam v2 and even the ace with the bolt v2, this simply cannot be true, how much more hardware is necessary?
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We have no idea what is required for the new wind sensor…so there really isn’t a comparison to previous models.
There is also likely a larger battery for the “longer” run times and the screen.
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It maybe that they first want to collect the wind and power and location data from a large sample of devices first. Then refine that to produce estimated CDA. Which will feed into future updates.
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You’ll never get a CdA value.
What you may get is a live view as to current efficiency of your position - maybe a traffic light system or a score out of 10.
Are the Bolt & Roam really running on Android, because those devices certainly feel much more ‘custom’ built than the Ace, which (at least from the videos) has a very ‘Android’ look & feel about it in terms of device navigation & customization - i.e. similar to the Karoo units.
I was really hoping the Ace would just be a natural progression of the Bolt/Roam and retain the same custom look & feel, and not become something more generic/‘Android’-like. That custom look & feel is/was one of their biggest selling points IMO, and it’s a shame that they’ve moved away from that…
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BOLT and ROAM really do run Android. You just don’t know it because it’s effectively running a single “bike computer” app. I think the ACE looks more like Android not because it’s got an Android launcher running, but just because with the screen + touchscreen things naturally end up being a certain way from a design perspective.
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I think power and heartrate cover whats needed. If you’re doing 330 watts at 80% of max HR, its 330 watts whether you’re drafting or going directly into a headwind. It really doesnt matter what the conditions are.
What it would be useful for is reviewing more detailed course conditions to help coaches teach racecraft. A coach reviewing what percent of a crit you spent in the draft vs off the front doing 30% more work is valuable. I dont think having that data up on a screen during an event will do much of anything for you.
Yeah, that would be pretty good and more practical in the real world (for most people I think) than the pure number. If it could let me compare various positions and roughly say, A is a little/lot better than B, that’s of value. So if I find a position where I am 9/10 versus my default 7/10, I’ll try to the number on my screen consistent to the 9, like a mini-game.
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The only practical implementation I see of the wind feature is if it was directly in Strava to compare segments and how wind affected times.
I actually think it would be quite cool to be able to show how long you were in the wind on a group ride.
“Look look - I did take a turn at the front!”
But I wouldn’t be able to get to the front… because I’d have a breeze block strapped to my handlebars…
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I have an old iBike Newton+ that does just that in the activity review. This aspect is cool to look at but it is not enough for me to put the thing on my handle bars. My power meter is all I need with a smaller garmin. I agree though I would get home and one of the first things I would look at is the wind data. As for CdA it was meh.
So what do we think the chances are that Wahoo launch a Roam/Bolt update with touchscreen, the Ace user interface, but no aero sensor and smaller than a cinder block, some time in 2025?
I need a new computer, and while many aspects of the Ace seem like promising (and needed) updates, it’s just too damn big and clunky. I’m torn between holding out (long time Wahoo user and I like their stuff in general) and looking at competitors.
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I think they need to update their current offerings - the Ace is a completely different device and won’t appeal to the same people - even if it was good.
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From the reviews I’d say the Ace probably IS quite good, or at least it will be shortly when they iron out some of the firmware glitches. I haven’t totally ruled it out, though I’m going to want a fully functional UI AND ALSO a way to actually put the damn thing on a bike with non-round bars (i.e. all my bikes) before I’d consider it.
It seems like a decent competitor to the 1050: a bit less money, slightly but not wildly larger, adds the aero sensor and has a Wahoo UI that appeals to many. Garmin seems to have sold a ton of 1050s, so the market is there for iPhone-sized (and priced) computers.
As DCRainmaker noted, this is a weird time to launch. It makes me wonder if they plan to launch a more normal computer in the spring. Launching a half-baked and expensive halo unit first to attract the price-is-no-object early adopter crowd, followed by a more marketable second tier offering, is not uncommon in tech.
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