This topic is inspired a bit by the latest podcast. It seemed that TR is building all kinds of stuff to ‘omit’ facing reality and testing and/or going all out. Nate et all. talk about the ability to ‘express your FTP’ and not having to do that in a future feature that ‘estimates’ your FTP based on c…

No…no we need to lay low at the start, stealthy. Then when everyone is sufficiently harumphed into a lather…that’s when you come in with some sweet sweet 2007 memes. And for the coup d’état maybe you can post the dancing baby from the 90’s. The farting frog would be legendary too, but we don’t want…

[image] killroy123: Do you want me to start that thread now or should I wait? :joy:

That’s to say that the 20 minute test gets you into AT better than ramp test. It might, but with our data overall ramp test is better.

@Nate_Pearson Curious if your data on FTP estimator has been benchmarked against the Ramp Test. Are you using the Ramp Test as the accuracy target as you tweak the estimator algorithms? Or are you saying the estimator may be better than other test methods. If so, how could “better” be quantified …

I’m interested In seeing how the TR FTP estimator compares to the WKO5 and Intervals.icu estimators, now that I’ve just done an all out 20 minute effort. I’m not using 95% of this effort to set FTP, but to use it to feed the WKO5 model. I’m using the WKO5 mFTP to set sub-threshold training zones, wh…

[image] Nate_Pearson: We know there will be a lot of forum members who will not like their detected FTP. I expect that I will stick with my current ego-selected value but happy to go into this with an open mind :slight_smile:

[image] AlphaDogCycling: I’m interested In seeing how the TR FTP estimator compares to the WKO5 and Intervals.icu estimators How does the WKO5 model work? I know the Intervals.icu one well - it basically just looks at best efforts along the power curve and estimates FTP from that: [image] B…

[image] Nate_Pearson: But I fully expect a 1,000 post thread fueled by 200 athletes saying how it doesn’t work for them. And that’s OK. They can still test other ways and we’re not removing any options. Thats kind of a given going by the threads here I am sure your predictions will be good f…

[image] killroy123: Do you want me to start that thread now or should I wait? Wait to see if anything major comes up from the podcast today. Only one big thread at a time or else the split attention will keep the thread from exploding. If nothing today, wait till 7 days from the last explod…

WKO5 matches your actual power duration curve against a modeled power duration curve, and the mFTP comes from this modeled power duration curve. For the details on this, I would point you to the WKO5 Webinars on Power Duration Modeling

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I expect that I will stick with my current ego-selected value but happy to go into this with an open mind

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