Shimano clutch mechanisms are cheap, I had one die on an old 10s XT derailleur. They’re all the same too, or at least 10 and 12s are, I assume your 11s is the same.
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Does anybody know when the XT version is due for release?
In interviews the word “soon” was used, which I take to mean later this year.
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While SRAM does often like to force incompatible new standards that have questionable benefit, UDH isn’t one of them and still lets you have a replaceable hanger if you so desire.
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Overall, XTR 9200 looks good. Worth upgrading to? Not for me (on mostly 9100 already) at full price. Now if XT is cheaper and on sale in a years time, that’ll probably be my next move
With 7 years of development, I expected more. And the US shimano guy interviewed on podcast’s seemed to downplay XTR a bit.
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XT and Deore will be announced soon.
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Not sure if ill switch from M9100 to M9200, other than when the current cassette wears.
In terms of shifting under load, I’ve been pulling 1000w+ shifts both ways since M9100 launch with no issues. Still not sure why Sram chose to market full power shifts as an industry big deal, for them, maybe…
Weightweenies forum has screenshots of leaked pricing already, so I’m guessing within the next few weeks.
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I think that’s where all the new SRAM stuff was first leaked also. Must be someone in a shop that doesn’t care much about the release rules. I know my local shop already has some of the new SRAM stuff waiting for the tuesday release, but they are smart enough not to leak it or put it in the hands of someone who would. I’m honestly surprised any of this stuff stays under wraps, bike shops aren’t exactly under tight security controls with highly vetted employees.
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just did the derailleur / shifter upgrade on my XC bike. Only lament is the change from the 20+ year standard of thumb and index finger to just thumb shifting. That muscle memory isn’t going to go away any time soon.
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can’t say more due to embargo. 
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Looks like Di2 XT and Deore is out too!
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Aftermarket XT shipping mid July
Aftermarket Deore shipping September
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I love my mechanical XTR, and was hoping for something awesome. Safe to say, I was very disappointed.
It was sort of expected given the Japanese are notorious for being regimented and often falling behind in terms of innovation, because they don’t take risks (e.g. Yamaha, if you watch MotoGP).
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I think the release is a bit late but nonetheless it’s a good product. Shifts fast, shifts under load, backwards compatible, uses a traditional hanger so useable with older non-udh frames, ergos of the shifter seem to be much improved compared to sram. What were you hoping for?
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Good depends on how you judge it. Based on SRAM’s offering, most people and reviewers seem to have concluded that it is lagging behind. It may still be very good, good enough, call it whatever you want, but it may not be the “best”. (I have a mix of XTR M9000, XT M8000 and M8100 on my mountain bike, so I am not a SRAM fanboi.) I agree with @Bozza that Shimano seems to have stopped pushing in a number of areas and they need to be “dragged into the future, screaming and kicking” (first-party power meters, 1x on the MTB side, 1x on gravel bikes, 1x on, ghasp, road bikes, 13 speeds, integration with head units).
Here are a few things that I think are missing, which came to my mind:
- A 9–45 or 10–45 cassette with gearing aimed at gravel cyclists who come from the road side.
- A (working) power meter.
- Backwards and cross compatibility (e. g. that you can use XT chainrings on your XTR crank).
What makes you think you can’t use XT chainrings on your XTR crank? I haven’t seen that mentioned anywhere?
20+ years of experience with XT and XTR cranks. The M9000 cranks even came in 1x and 2x variants. They are identical except for some cutouts, which means you can (if memory serves) convert a 2x crank to 1x, but not the other way around.
It’s the reason that brands like Garbaruk and Rotor need to make not just generation-specific chainrings, but Shimano groupset level-specific. For example, if you have an older groupset, it might get really hard to get genuine chainrings (at least at an affordable price). In my experience, Shimano keeps making cheaper parts (think SLX) longer.
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I had the same experience. Overall, Transmission is a great group. But it is SLOW. There’s no way I’d put it on my gravel or road bike by choice. I’ve heard Red XPLR is a bit faster, but both are still a good bit slower than anything Shimano.
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