I’ve been refreshing this page every day since the announcement, I’ve noticed that the number of users in the beta has slowed down considerably. Can’t wait for those bugs be squashed! Personally I got into cycling in March and did training plans on zwift and even had a coach for a month setting me up to train for an everesting event. Every since around July thought my training became less and less consistent since the job stress was getting too much. Now here I am many months later and only doing maybe one or two rides a month no matter how many times I delete and re-create the trainer road training plan. Hoping that now work is getting a little better, and with adaptive training it can ease me back into finally achieving my goals 
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yep
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We have reports of a few folks experiencing this. Should be resolved soon!
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Thanks @IvyAudrain! I’ll check it again tomorrow.
Its fixed now!
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You guys don’t hang around 
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Your comment on the curve is spot on. A small group of us are frustrated with it though. I intentionally muted the threads about AT/ML months ago, because it was causing me stress, and no proposed schedule for release. Until my A event, now I will have to hand select workouts to maintain my volume. Peaking 3 months out doesn’t make sense for a high volume event. A large part of the reason I signed up for TR was for the HV plan. I agreed with the consistency is critical for improvement, and to stick to a plan. The plan just cut 16% TSS, and the workouts look easier (sometimes drastically) on the new rating system too. Even the recovery weeks are easier.
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I think that answers it? Basically I just launched a plan builder plan, so I guess I will go back and try the reapply plan as you suggest. Thanks Jonathan!
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You absolutely right and Workout Levels takes interval order and magnitude into account.
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I have the same concerns here. This is a key sentence:
I have learned the hard way that I can’t complete the plans using ramp tests to set targets. So have figured out how to adjust threshold and VO2 power targets to complete workouts as near as I can tell they are intended. I suspect the new plans are based on an assumed progression level in relevant energy systems. @Jonathan can you provide insights into if there is an assumed progression level?
Why is this relevant? I am starting a new block of base in a highly trained state, and today in place of a ramp test did a TT effort that resulted in hitting 99% of what I think my FTP is for 49 min. Looking at similar style workouts in the library - namely sustained intervals near FTP - that would place me in the 7-8 range I think for threshold progression level. But the workouts in my base block will have threshold workouts that are gonna be super doable looking at them individually. Maybe that is the point because there is a lot of work stacked through the week, or maybe it is because my assumed progression level is lower than what I have demonstrated, or maybe a combination is true.
I’m happy to adjust them harder or easier, but it would still be helpful to get a macro understanding of what the plan is trying to do if I understood how my current fitness stacks up against the nominal fitness level assumed in making the plans. I can bak out the former, just have no idea on the latter.
Maybe I am thinking about it all wrong.
The Workout Levels are fixed, Progression Levels however are unique to each athlete as a response to their completed training.
As Jon mentioned prior, our perception of how hard a workout is, even if we’ve done it before, is not as accurate as the classification system provided by Machine Learning and Adaptive Training. As such, resetting expectations is a process we’ll all go through. Harder is not better in every context! 
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Another quote to copy paste in or have AI add as needed.
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Can we still have access to the old plans? I found the old SSB 1&2 suit me pretty well. Also I’d like to see how AT works on the old plans.
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Thanks for the response. I understand this. I’m asking something different.
Are the plans built based off a nominal assumed progression level for an, most likely non-existent, average user? I think it has to be - though that assumed achievement level may be implicit or explicit.
The reason I’m asking is precisely because of the fact that progression levels are unique to each athlete, and very likely to deviate by some amount from the average.
Agree - which is why I am trying to understand the underlying assumptions in the plan progressions. I understand reasonably well what I can do on any given workout on any given day. At least to within a 2-3% percent margin. What I don’t understand well is how to string workouts together to achieve long term growth. Feels like I am starting over a bit here, right when I was starting to get traction with how best to adjust the old plan progressions to achieve success.
Until AT comes along for everyone, I’m going to have to try to figure out if the workouts are too hard or too easy for my current fitness. And that is something I really struggle with.
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This is not a new problem, but describes the current and previous state of affairs with fixed/‘cookie cutter’ training plans - you are on your own to individualized them.
I think the workout levels that have fully released should help with this a bit (although unfortunately the levels generated for custom workouts are not ‘correct’ - ie they are not directly comparable to standard workouts.) My suggestion for your threshold example would be to find a TR workout that is as similar as possible to your recent workout, note its workout level, and then do threshold workouts that have a similar level.
Does adaptive training, and the workout recommendations now look at all rides pushed into the Trainerroad calendar?
The reason i am asking is because i just synched my rides from strava, and the workout reccomendations changed after that. - From climbing before, (where i only had TR rides in my calendar) to an endurance ride now.
Makes sense, if adaptive training looks at all rides and data now?
Best wishe Malte
Already answered above. Sorry!
Pretty much the same thing happened to me.
Except, when I went back into plan builder to start from scratch I see a message saying this plans starts before “current training plan” ends. Plans shouldn’t run concurrently.
So it looks like my plan is still there but I can’t see it.
Really looking forward to the new plans but I’m concerned how the outdoor workouts will pull data with a large indoor/outdoor power differential. Using the same PM my watts are approximately 10% more outdoors so just quickly rethink the targets on the fly. I don’t want the AT to think that I’m destroying my workouts and then making the indoor ones impossible.
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Weird question it I’ve always found my personal performance relies a lot more on max aerobic/anaerobic contributions (for example a ramp test doesn’t feel like a max effort unless my heart rate is above 200 bpm in the last step) and I have found recurring injury a big barrier to my consistency. Will the revised plans accommodate for my history of completed vs failed workouts and/or my FTP history as a way of gauging fitness trajectory?
Thanks again for everything you guys are doing.