Calories seem really high. Did not like the marketing email and unsubscribed for that.
I choose hard if it’s one of my intensity workouts for the week, i.e. not recovery or endurance.
I was a skeptic on the high calories too and have tried it for the past couple of weeks. Never felt stronger on the bike; power on demand at the end of a .80 IF 5-hour gravel ride. And haven’t gained weight. Yet.
Same experience as @rswagler1. It seems a bit counterintuitive, but the science is pretty solid. This may not be the method for someone who’s really overweight, but if you’re someone trying to get peak performance, you have to fuel it, especially when actually doing the training.
For reference, how much did you calories go up on average and were you coming off any deficit or were already in maintenance mode for a while?
I’ve been trying to make this happen, but I’m really struggling to get in this much protein. I’ve tried using powders and bars to bump it up, but I end up with gastrointestinal issues. I’m just not sure I can cook and eat something like 20 oz of chicken breast a day!
What type of protein powder are you using? I’ve been using Optimum Nutrition why protein (Extreme Milk Chocolate) and don’t seem to be having any issues. I do try to stay to 1 scoop, or less, per day whenever possible, though. Plenty of nonfat Greek yogurt, some eggs, plenty of cottage cheese, and some turkey also in the mix.
I use Puori protein powder, Pete recommended it to me back in the day because it’s so clean, and I’ve stuck with it ever since. I’ve never had an issue, but have also never consistently used more than one or two servings a day before at most. I’ve also been using Clif Builder Bars since starting this, so it could be those. I just had 8 ounces of chicken breast and I’m STUFFED, but I’m still 40g low for the day.
I’m measuring this week, and after six weeks I somehow intuited my way to 270g carb (rest day), 180g protein, 108g fat yesterday. Five ‘meals’, no supplements.
1 Coffee, cream, bread, peanut butter
2 Yoghurt fruit honey
3 Large chicken. breast , lettuce, mayo, cheese, bread
4 Beef koftas, potato, onions, peppers
5 Pint of semi milk
That’s lunch heavy, bacon/eggs/beans breakfast can make lunch lighter.
I’m waking early to get a start on the 576g carbs for today day, and let it digest for an hour before I start training at 07:00.
Have you tried to with soy beans, beans, beef, peanut butter, chickpeas those are really protein rich vegetables. 2x weight protein is a lot I rarely eat that much.
Wow! Thats definitely a ton. Dedication!
More beans is a good call out. I’m just afraid to bump fiber way up since I’m already having some gastrointestinal issues. Maybe instead of adding beans I’ll replace those bars with beans and see how that goes. I’m still not sure how I’m going to get that high though. An entire can of beans only has about 20g protein.
I might also try doing like Joe mentioned and add a ton of real milk/yoghurt instead of more protein powder. I might also need to start working out earlier so I can get started on slamming protein earlier in the day. I traditionally have avoided large volumes of protein pre-ride.
Does anyone else get wild amount of carbs from this? Its giving me nearly 700g on a 2h endurance day…
For me, the carb intake was the definite shocker. Maybe the same for others. This sort of ‘diet’ seems kind of like the ‘anti-keto’: low fat, high carbs, reasonable protein.
In the end, though, you are effectively just putting in the fuel that you’re using to put in all of that effort, while eating enough fat to maintain body composition, and enough protein to support rebuilding what you’re breaking down.
I like doing a scoop of whey in my oatmeal in the morning. I tried casein protein once in it and it became solid sludge, would not recommend. Whey dissolves easily and gets 25g in early.
I see it the opposite. It’s very easy for me to eat that many carbs. Eating that much protein is a massive challenge.
I was coming from gradual weight reduction and have selected that for this plan (for context, 188cm at 87kg, 64 male). Calories are generally up 20-25%, all off the bike. I’ve been fueling my rides well all along. Also paying more attention to macros.
What FTP have you entered, bodyweight and how many weekly hours?
I’m 576g for 2 hard hours today at gradual weightloss.
This might be why im only 56kg but 5w/kg FTP. So fat and protein get stuck low.
Oats with peanut butter or tahini /check that/ in the yogurt to start the day. I actually eat about 4-5 kilograms of yogurt a week, often more /sheep and cow/. I live in the rural and agricultural region and I buy milk cheaply and make it at home. Also pasta makes you fasta. Me and few friends will buy black Angus bull after the summer you know for what. Local farmer will sell it for 4,50€ per kilogram. That’s a good deal.