Was complimenting you about the post that was totally full of details in a joking way.
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great recommendation, looking fast it seems like exactly what I need to read! And ive seen that authors name in these posts 
thanks!
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I have not. Sounds like I have some reading to do. Link to anything you’ve got.
There is probably 600mg chloride in the Gatorade I use in a typical bottle with quick/rough math, FYI.
I just went through their online sweat test and basically checked the boxes that would cause it to recommend higher sodium content beverage products to me, then I clicked the links to their recommended products.
No sodium chloride present.
Purely sodium citrate.
Hooray confirmation bias!
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I like Fluid. The carbs are good and not too many ingredients. We have them as a sponsor so its cheap. Pretty similar to Skratch, which happens to be onsale at The Freed 20% off atm. I would look into your local club and see who the sponsors are. I save a ton of money on sponsored kit and nutrition. I would join a club just for these reasons alone.
Tailwind for me! I don’t do caffeine, so I can’t speak to all of their flavors, but I like all of their decaf stuff. I fuel ALL of my long rides with Tailwind.
I just picked up a bag of their salted caramel revuild too! Man, that stuff is good.
Apart from energy content, can anyone educate me on the different purposes of SIS’s carb and electrolyte mixes? I’d presume that also their carb mix replenishes electrolytes, correct? Currently, I drink both, but more to have different tastes (taste-wise, I prefer the electrolyte mix).
I think one has carbs and the other doesn’t. So one is for fueling and one just for hydration. You might not want to get carbs in every bottle you drink, for example, when it’s hot. Or you might prefer separating your fuel from your hydration.
Sorry, I realize I wasn’t precise: SIS has electrolyte powder that has 36 g of carbs per portion (two scoops per 500 ml). Their energy powder has 47 g carbs (3 spoons per 500 ml). I also have their electrolyte tabs that have a negligible amount of carbs. Drinking one bottle of energy and one bottle of electrolyte mix gives me about 83 g of carbs.
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Looks like Nuun takes the same approach, and even have an article with a link to research for why they do it that way. Skratch’s Hyper Hydration avoids sodium chloride too, and they talk about why.
Meanwhile on the extreme end of rehydration (which is not strictly comparable to hydration during exercise, but an interesting data point), WHO found better outcomes in oral rehydration therapy from reducing the sodium chloride concentration.
I have been using a mix of sodium chloride and trisodium citrate in my own mix up to this point, but I might switch out the table salt entirely.
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Ah, then, I can’t help you, that doesn’t make much sense to me either! Maybe just so people buy all of it…
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To sell more products.
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I’ve not tried the salted caramel yet. I still have 2 bags of the chocolate here. But you recommend? Also, for an added protein kick, I mix min with Ripple (milk alternative)
I was fortunate enough to get to try the beta version of it and ordered some of the stick packs when it was first released. They just added it to their permanent lineup earlier this year. I’m still torn between this and the chocolate, but they are both very tasty.
Long time CarboPro user as a drink mix, but it’s completely out of stock these days (Damn Covid)!
Tailwind sounds interesting with a LOT of great reviews online. Have you tried the Naked Unflavored option? For longer events, especially in warm weather … I’m not a fan of sweeter flavors.
UCAN in powder or bar form for carb and SIS or PowerBar zero carb electrolyte tablets.
I mix two parts water with one part Trader Joe’s lemon-ginger-echinacea juice (mostly
Fructose) , add salt and maltodextrin powder and there you have it: hipster Gatorade
Circling back, here. I’m trying to dig up evidence that chloride is needed during exercise. I have yet to find support for that idea in the literature.
Certainly, chloride is lost in large amounts during sweat, but I haven’t found convincing rationale or hard evidence that its replacement is merited.
Anyone got any links to literature evidencing that chloride is necessary or measurably beneficial in endurance fueling strategy?
Interesting read. Thank you. I’ll see if I can dig up more before I go and put my neck on the line on YouTube.
Thanks for all the explanations!
Do you have any rules of thumb for how much water to consume with a high carb (let’s say 100g/hour) to ensure good osmolarity / avoid GI distress?