In my experience, it is rare to see adaptations to workouts that come after an upcoming recovery week. I believe this is likely because it is waiting to see your next ramp test result to adjust the levels and apply the progression to the fitness at that time, rather than adapt according to the fitness in the final weeks of the previous block. In other words, it’s trying to capture and use your real time gains/losses rather than historic ones.
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@BCrossen is correct here. AT only adapts through the current block, or in other words, through one block at a time.
A good analogy is to think of your training plan like a weather forecast: the closer the workout is to today’s date, the more certain AT can be. The further into the future the workout is, the less certain AT can be about how you will have completed or responded to the training by then. So, the further into the future the workout is, the more likely it is to be adapted multiple times.
For that reason, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to adapt too far into the future. (This is the same reason weather forecasts typically only give you a limited range forecast.) When you also take into account that you’ll be re-assessing your FTP at the start of each block, then it really doesn’t make sense to adapt that far into the future.
So, the closer you get to the end of a training block, the fewer adaptations you’ll see. If you’re in the final recovery week of a training block, you may not even see adaptations.
Does this help to clarify?
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It does clarify the intent but not my specific plan. I am now not sure if my plan will start working again in a week. I do not have a ramp test to start the next block. Plan builder put 3 weeks of sweet spot base without a ramp test between build and specialty for my cross prep.
So…
I may have broken my whole plan by moving things around this week, or not.
It may be waiting till after the ramp test that does not exist (which may actually be a legit bug for the dev team).
It may just never be told to adapt until you are in that next block, which would be an item for the doc writing team rather than the software team.
If you write back and say for sure that I broke the whole downstream set of plans by moving this week around, i am just going to delete it and recreate it. It skips a workout and adds a ramp test to start your plan when you do this but I can fake around that. I would suggest maybe a “Are you sure you want to break stuff” modal for people in the beta if they drag a workout around and this is the case.
If you are not 100% sure that is the case I will leave it alone and see what it does in 2 weeks to start that mini SS block to see if there is actually a bug or doc issue to be added to the backlog.
If the modal option is a ton of work to make happen on all the platforms would it maybe be a quick hack to have a button someplace ( in the beta on/off section? ) that says put my plan back to what planbuilder had and make AT start working again.
Your whole plan would definitely not be broken, just the workouts you dragged and dropped (but ONLY if you moved them via dragging and dropping). Those individual workouts you moved wouldn’t receive adaptations.
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Perfect. I will leave it be and see what it does for that next block then. Thank you!
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To clarify, I don’t believe the ramp test specifically is the trigger to start adaptations at the beginning of the block. I think it just foregoes adaptations until the start of the next block by recognizing the recovery week is completed. As an example, during my eight weeks of specialty, there were no ramp tests, but there was a recovery week. The morning of my first workout of the second block of specialty (after that recovery week), it adapted several workouts according to my progression levels despite me not having a ramp test. I could have been more clear in my previous post on that.
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Yep you nailed it again. In some cases the blocks will line up with a recovery week and ramp test as bookends, but there are exceptions, given the plans are custom built for different timelines, schedules, and goals. So adapting through the end of a block may look different from block to block or when comparing one custom plan to another.
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You can delete any annotation you add to Calendar, even if you adapted your plan around the time off. When you delete the annotation, AT will ask you whether you want to adapt your plan or not. If you opt to adapt your plan when deleting a time-off annotation, AT will re-populate the annotation date-range with the appropriate workouts.
- click into the annotation
- edit the Trash Can icon to delete
- Adapt Plan when prompted
You can also edit the date range of a time-off annotation. In your example, you might perhaps extend the date range of your time off, to give you a few more days of buffer after returning. To do this,
- click into the annotation
- edit the end date as desired
- click Save
- Adapt Plan when prompted
AT will adapt your plan accordingly.
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All of these helpful hints on moving and navigating AT are immensely valuable. I hope this is something that can be a sticky or in a best practice doc.
I have already bookmarked the thread as you answered one of my questions and then some others. Thank you.
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