Hi all, So a ramp test officially measures your maximum aerobic power (MAP) which is the highest one minute of power you put out before failure on the test. FTP is then calculated from this based on the fact that for the majority of people it comes out at 72-78% of MAP. This all makes sense. Howeve…

Possibly, although just how much precision might be lost isn’t really clear. There is of course Morton’s approach of doing multiple ramp tests with different slopes to try to sort all of these things out.

I’ve done the 3’ test once, but the 2nd time I had to do the 8’ step test which they used for the Quickstep riders in that same lab. It’s a lot harder finishing your final step after 18’ or after 48’ haha. Having to finish 8’ at 300W at the end is quite tough I can tell you.

[image] old_but_not_dead_yet: doing multiple ramp tests with different slopes to try to sort all of these things out. FUN! :heart_eyes:

Two of my favourite figures from recent work on peak power/MAP derived from different incremental ramp rates. Which do you think will hurt the most?! :grin: [EndNote_2020-11-24_14-02-29] [image] Establishing the V̇o2 versus constant-work-rate relationship from... The dissociation betwe…

Another calculation that puts you in the ballpark, to give you an idea of the ceiling (and what % of that ceiling your FTP currently is). watts (.01080 + mass (.007) = liters/min L/min * 1000 / mass = VO2 estimate take a 4-5 min steady state stretch on a 5-6min max effort, preferably after a prev…

[image] RobertK: take a 4-5 min steady state stretch on a 5-6min max effort, preferably after a previous long zone 5 “blowout” effort (like the Coggan 20min test has the 5min blowout before it). Or do this: [image] How to estimate VO2max using a power meter Training and Racing wit…

Same formula, but the problem with that one (sometimes) is that the anaerobic contribution can still be too high for some, even if you snip the spikes at the start and the finish. Doing a good 8-10min effort first helps reduce that. If I do a 5min completely fresh, I’d have a steady-state line of a…

Sorry to dig up an old thread. So if I look at a relatively recent ramp test, my 5 minute power was 377 watts. My FTP was calculated at 310, which may be correct, may not be correct. If I do the math, 377 is about 121% of 310, which would tell me I need to be doing VO2 max workouts that look lik…

[image] russell.r.sage: how does one sustain this or am I wrong assuming all workouts need to be at MAP? You are wrong assuming all workouts need to be at MAP [emphasis mine]. So you know how we (cyclists, triathletes, etc) base some intervals off of FTP (sweetspot, threshold, over-unders, e…

Yes, I understand the time component because I’ve been reading these threads. However, the tool we (I) have is Trainerroad, which provides me a structured workout. I picked Spencer +2 out of the air because I remember feeling like I was going to die when I did these workouts, which I assume is the…

Maximum Aerobic Power (MAP), what does it really tell you?

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Or do this:

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Maximum Aerobic Power (MAP), what does it really tell you?

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