I’ve found ziplocks a bit faffy (the powder gets in the “rails” and then the bags don’t close properly / tend to reopen on their own.
I had used wikipedia’s sweetness index table and assumed malto was same as glucose but it’s clearly not, as shown in that table. So you’re definately right - malto + fructose is not as sweet as table sugar. Maybe there’s just some sidenote in fructose that I really dislike.
Btw, acidic things such as pure lemon or lime juice cuts the perceived sweetness quite well. So that’s definately worth a shot if anyone is struggling with overly sweet taste. I use roughly two or three table spoons per 100g.
Just get yourself a kitchen funnel off of amazon to fill your ziplock bags and it will keep the mixture off the rails. Any other kind of plastic container is going to be faffy to carry in jersey pockets.
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No sure if it helps, but I use old High 5 hydration tablet tubes to hold extra powder on a long ride. Neat, easy to open and hold enough for a 750cc bottle using the mix I use. Easy to carry in back pockets or elsewhere. Might as well reuse them, but not ideal after they have been used as don’t fold up 
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We have another called Staminade here, made in Aus but not sure if found over seas. This data is in relation to the Lemon Lime flavour tub of magical powder.
I came up with the following data to make a 90g carb mix at 48% fruc. The reason for 90g is because that’s where I’m personally at, not because of the “90g carbs per hour” thing. Also I’m heading for events of 3+ hours. I usually add about 700mg salt (that’s what I have around) to a 650ml bottle.
| gatorade | sugar | |
|---|---|---|
| serving size | 16.25 | 75 |
| sucrose | 10.4 | 85.4 |
| glucose | 3.6 | 3.6 |
| fructose | 5.2 | 42.7 |
| glucose | 8.8 | 46.3 |
| glu/fruc ratio | 0.3714285714 | 0.4797752809 |
| Total carbs | 89 |
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Question for you DIYers. Check my logic here:
Online here, SIS GO claims it is made of 93% carb mix (corn malto / fructose) in the ingredients. The nutritional label shows the drink (per 100g) contains 91g carbs, 17 of which are ‘sugar’.
By US-FDA nutritional label rules, you do not need to list malto as sugar (but must count as carb). So this suggests that 17/91 (18.6%) carbohydrate grams are fructose and 74/91 (81.4%) are malto. In order words, the fructose to malto ratio of SIS GO is 1:5, not 1:2 as many tend to do with DIY mix drinks.
Asking for my own reference bc I plan to join the DIY crowd. Just bought a kilo of malto and a kilo of fructose to experiment. Thanks
Hello,
Iam looking for my own mix. What do you think about the following:
I use isotonic drink for the taste and electralytes:
- 1 scope: 32gram carbs from what 18 gram sugar amd 0.70 gram salt.
- maltodextrine: 46 gram and table sugar: 12 gram.
Do you think this is the right way? Or do i miss something?
You find straight sugar less sweet than maltodextrin and Fructose?
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I’m not the OP, but I did the same. It was such a faff mixing malto without clumping - sugar is easier, more readily available and I reckon it’s much less sweet, or at least a different flavour profile. I was using a scoop of Gatorade, Skratch or Pure (the brand) mix to help it taste better but when they all ran out I started using hydration tabs or a dash of lemon or lime juice.
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Can UK TR users who make their own please point me at a UK shopping list? I keep ploughing thru this thread, not finishing it after taking a few notes and then a week later remembering I still didn’t actually order anything!
Not UK, but Ireland… Maltodextrin from Myprotein or BulkPowders. Bulk used to do Fructose, but don’t (on their .ie site at least) post-brexit, so I buy from Holland and Barrett. Electrolyte powder I buy from Bulk.
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Not sure it’s the right thread, but… I mix my own mix but have a few foreign trips. I don’t really fancy bringing white powder on flights, so was going to buy actual Beta Fuel sachets. Will I need to train my gut, once I’m hitting the same/ v. similar mix?
I was concerned too. Security gives you much more trouble about bringing peanut butter or yogurt with you than white powders.
White powders aren’t even flagged for a second look most of the time. But they’ll take my potentially-explosive-PB every time.
If you’re using the same glucose:fructose ratio, roughly the same sodium amounts, and same overall carb amounts, no gut training will be necessary.
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No out of stock here too now I look. I did home delivery the last time, so stocked up! I used to be able to by 5kg of it with Bulk!
I’ll still be nervous, for the sake of the cost of a few sachet’s!
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No sure if it helps, but I use old High 5 hydration tablet tubes to hold extra powder on a long ride. Neat, easy to open and hold enough for a 750cc bottle using the mix I use. Easy to carry in back pockets or elsewhere. Might as well reuse them, but not ideal after they have been used as don’t fold up [/quote]
This works. I’ve also repurposed the Tums 72 tablet container. It’s see-through, has a decent sized mouth opening to help filling and pouring, and has a solidly locking flip-cap that I can’t lose. I used a sharpie to mark the outside with graduations at 30gram increments of powder (think it was perpetuem scoops at the time), and the container holds 120g of malto (edit: fixed this to change to grams of malto, since scoops depends on the scoop size).
And as a bonus, the 2 wide faces of the bottle are concave, which meant they somewhat curve around the water bottle in my Revelate feed bags (I’m on mtb) when I put them in the mesh pockets on the outside.
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True story! Those things are expensive!!
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@Bbt67 @Macy MyProtein for Maltodextrin and https://peaksupps.co.uk/ for fructose - £13.99 for 2Kg
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