Looking for the podcast where they discuss having a friend or significant other play the role of soigneur

Any help appreciated. I’ve searched a bit and I’ve came up empty.

I think it could be one of the episodes where they spoke about 24H in the Old Pueblo.

Have a look here?


They also talk about it extensively in the recap of Nate’s Leadville race.

Thanks @Brando and @Scorpion756. Neither of those are the one I was thinking of.

I just found it:

The relevant discussion starts at 10m 30s.