I’m 51 and going to race age class so for sho not in the same group!
Just the day can make the difference now, on a calm, warm, low pressure day you could probably go a minute faster on the same power and position and we have months and months to fine tune everything. 39.XX is looking good!
Here’s my rig, all dressed up for some segment hunting this summer.
Tririg Alpha X bars, BTA mount and a K edge Wahoo mount
Ultegra Di2 drivetrain, 52/36 and 11-30 with 165mm cranks
Flo disc/90 with GP5k’s and latex tubes
My favorite feature on the bike is the brake levers. I loved the Bontrager XXX levers for the built in barrel adjuster, so shaved down a set of SW-R9150 buttons and epoxied them to the levers. Currently set up to shift the RD only, might go to syncro shift in the future at some point but don’t really feel like I’m missing out.
I’m fairly happy with the position right now, my wife got me wind tunnel time for christmas where I went up and forward 1.0 CM, which netted some great gains. We tried to get the hands in front of the face, but I just could not make power and the difference between high hands and level bars was almost imperceptible. I also have fantastic forward visibility and feel like I can ride this all day long. For reference this should get me to 27 MPH on 294 watts on a just about flat course (6’1" 167 lbs). There’s also some improvements to be made getting the head lower and a bit more turtled.
The bike is about mostly set, but probably going to get some kind of aero skewer, and have been toying with going with some of the really low RR tires.
Time Trial you say? I think I’ve ruled myself out with the most UCI-illegal bike since Graeme Obree’s heyday. It’s for triathlon. Still a work in progress and waiting on parts e.g. the kinda-important brake levers, needs the steerer cutting once my spacers turn up (not cutting it to be slammed, I might want to sell it one day!) No race wheels yet, no point buying a set of those this year
It’s mostly Ultegra, some new Di2 parts mixed with components from my old TT and other bikes so I have a weird 53/39 170mm mismatched with an 11-32; given my paltry watts and long distance focus, a compact with a 28 on the back would suit me better The brake levers will be the exception, Dura-Ace, as there are no Ultegra hydraulic Di2 levers.
I repeat, there are no brakes, so no I’ve not used it in anger more seriously yeah there are a bunch of shots of the finished article around, particularly this set which not only features the bike but someone who can actually ride it well: Articles – TriRig
That is a tall dude! Also, building up a so-called superbike with scavenged parts is
I should correct something in that article, mind: “There isn’t much on Ben’s Ceepo Shadow-R that can be replaced, as most of the parts are quite integrated.” should be clarified; that’s down to bar choice I think in his case. The fork has a standard steerer. You can’t swap out the headset at least there are dire warnings not to. The seatpost is bespoke, but then almost every aero post is. You can’t run a mechanical front derailleur. Other than that you’re looking at standard parts. I asked TriRig about their bars on this bike and they reckon you could pop an Alpha on there no problem.
I see a lot of these bikes have the bars where they sweep up, fairly significantly, rather than being mostly flat. Is this how TT bikes have evolved? The last one I owned was pretty close to flat.
Yes, a high hand position has been shown to be faster for almost everyone. That hand position is achieved one of two ways…a configuration as you pictured above or through angling the extensions as a whole (or I guess some combination of both).
I have a 10* angle using fairly conventional bend extensions (see my profile pic). I tested a high hand position using Zipp EVO 11 extensions and it was actually slower for me. But I am definitely the exception. If you can’t test to verify, it is probably a safe assumption that a high hand position is faster.
Check out the Zipp 110 Vuka EVO extensions if you go this route (available in both carbon and aluminum)…probably the most comfortable hand postion extensions I have ever used (I did eventually put them on my gravel bike for DK200 last year).
Short update: Spoke to Ceepo about max stem length/spacers. They replied “Slam it!” so I have 1x5mm spacer on top of the stem and that’s all. Brakes are soon to be on their way so might get this down to the outdoor velodrome next week.
I’m going to second these extensions as well. One of the really cool things about their design is that you can actually rotate the extensions and it will adjust the spacing of the bars at the end without compromising your hand position. So you can really tweak that feature all day long and find the most comfortable position without completely re-configuring your cockpit.
So from what I’ve seen/ heard it’s really more that you either need to be fully flat or very high hands, and for a lot of people those positions tend to be surprisingly similar (and was for me as well). A lot of people will just tilt the bars up a few degrees which while really comfortable does not test fast. The cue I’ve heard is that your hands should be very much in your line of sight to get the benefit.
I finally swapped out some parts on my front end. Of course during the test ride it came loose and made it difficult to gauge but I might feel more comfortable once I fine tune the saddle some. Ultimately, I think a different arm pad setup will give some more support and really tie everything together. I hope I’m moving in the right direction! @Joe