Legacy Pricing of TR

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Nate’s post here:

required a bit of careful reading on my part. What I read is that in the future, TR will announce a change and then:

  • anyone on legacy pricing will automatically be billed the higher rate
  • at their next billing cycling (monthly or annually)
  • you then have 1 year to ask for a return to previous legacy pricing

Someone correct me if that is wrong.

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1312

Maybe i’m being dense, but what is the reason someone on Legacy pricing would not Opt out? Just to pay more voluntarily? Or is there some penalty for opting out that I’m not seeing? Seems like it could be no different than today except for perhaps there may be a price increase for new users that would add another layer to the legacy pricing.

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1313

I was wondering the same thing.

1314

Logically…no reason at all…however some legacy users have expressed an interest in paying more to help support TR, so this option will now be available.

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1315

Some people on legacy pricing have said that they’d be willing to pay more. This is their chance to put their money where their mouth is :stuck_out_tongue:

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1316

Can that be retrospective? I missed out on $99 a few years ago.

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1317

Thanks!

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1318

Double negative. So that means current rate plus an amount. :wink:

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1319

I’m sure that would make the new folks happy. :face_with_peeking_eye:

1320

I see a few reasons for a legacy user to not opt out of the price increase, in no particular order:

  • They would rather pay more than they ‘have to’ to support further TR development.
  • They are ambivalent and don’t bother to take the steps to opt out.
  • They feel like asking for continued legacy pricing is taking advantage of a good intentioned promise that could not feasibly be kept forever.
  • They are completely unaware of the change for an entire year, and therefore don’t opt out because they either don’t know about the price increase or don’t know they have the option to opt out.

My guess would be that the vast majority of subscribers at a discounted legacy price have no idea that “Nate promised” to never change this. Unless you listened to particular episodes of the podcast or read a few specific threads on the forum, you would not know about this. I don’t think that any language on the website pricing or terms and conditions said that your price will never increase. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.)

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1321

Ah of course! I just think of it as the $99 USD price point, or maybe even there was a $129 or whatever the price sat on for a very long time before the massive jump happened and everyone started complaining about the legacy pricing thing.

I can’t even fathom the price is now $189 and that might one day be considered legacy pricing

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1322

I joined due to legacy pricing. At the time @Nate_Pearson announced on the podcast that a price increase coming. I had been thinking about joining and this made me push the button.

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1323

FWIW, just renewed for another year, my legacy pricing is locked in until Oct 2023. So I think that means I can watch this unfold and have a clearer picture of what options I have before needing to make my next decision.

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I’m still not clear on what it would be that we’d be opting out of. Several people have said that if you don’t opt out you’d be paying the current rate, but then you’ve mentioned paying an extra $5/month. So is the default that you’d pay the current rate (which would be more than $5 more for some subscribers)? Or that you’d pay $5/month more than your current rate? And would whichever it is then become a new fixed rate, or would it be subject to future increases?

Also, is this a one-time only deal, or would we have the option to opt in at a future date (say, once certain economic uncertainties have worked themselves through a bit…)?

1325

What a complete mess - I am a little confused also but here is what I am interpreting from Nate.

“He is giving legacy users another year of legacy pricing where they intend to roll out all the new features, he’s wagering that all the new features are going to be so useful and great that in say 2024 when he comes back and says okay now legacy pricing is dead that users are going to just suck it up and pay the difference because the new features are really that great/useful”

That is 100% how I am interpreting this, inevitably true legacy pricing will parish at some point.

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1326

My read is that the only thing you are opting out of is a price increase. The wording may seem weird…why wouldn’t you opt out of a price increase. But it gives legacy price users the option to decide if they can afford to give TR more money. As far as I can tell, you are not opting out of any product functionality.

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1327

Here is I think Nate’s clearest explanation of what he is proposing from earlier in the thread.

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1328

Not trying to be rude, but I think you managed to be wrong with every suggestion in your post.

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I think it’s important to understand that there are no official TR announcements about this. Nate has said (pretty clearly, imo) what he plans to do, but there are no official announcements. I think TR knows what it’s doing well enough to roll this out in clear way with their support staff all trained up on how to answer our many, many questions and frustrations. But for now, unless I’ve missed some huge announcement, things are as they have always been, and we won’t know for sure what the future holds until we get there.

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1330

Not being rude at all - I am trying to figure out what’s going on with future pricing is all. What is your opinion or interpretation?

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