Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing. I was wondering why the recovery weeks in the LSRF plan didn’t appear to be much of a drop in volume. Turns out it’s because the LSRF plan doesn’t have any recovery weeks.
What’s your athletic profile set to? I have mine at advanced and it seems to cap my volume to 11 hrs per week.
I’m assuming if I set my profile to “pro” it will have me go over that 11 hour mark.
So far I’ve been enjoying their more traditional approach.
I’ve got mine set to pro and it is giving me 11 hours a week BUT I did up the hours as I have doing about 7 / 8 hours a week for the last good knows, and as I have all the time in the world, want to ride more, but Join seems to want to up my hours gradually, I’m just going to add in some extra Z2 and see what it does
That plan changes a lot for me. I remember asking on here if others also had recovery weeks conincide with Christmas… obviously, the plan changed again, and no recovery week!
@splash agreed. My 1x30 @ threshold for next week is now gone. Maybe because I did 1x25 yesterday? 
I’m not training for any specific event so I’m just rolling with it.
Now that it’s been awhile I have to… surprisingly say… that the workout score IS nudging me to do workouts outside closer to the plan. Essentially making me more cognizant of things to get that score up.
Think for some people its a really nice trigger to actually do the workout as prescribed.
Although, I’m not sure how a workout done in ERG, on Zwift would only give me a 7,5.
ERG mode not responsive enough so it’s drifting all over the place?
I’m really enjoying Join so far. I’m coming into a week where I have 5 days of travel, so I’ve moved all those days to 0 availability, which it obviously doesn’t like. As a result, it’s moved the rest of my plan to lower hours in the future too. Can I assume that when I get back, and reset the availability, it will go back to the higher volume originally planned? My only complaint so far is that I’m just not used to not being able to schedule my plan more than 7 days out.
Pretty sure that’s what happened when I had to do the same.
How are you getting the workout to Zwift, through Training peaks or importing the ZWO straight into Zwift
Is it defaulting to lower end of the power range ? I send mine through TrainingPeaks and yesterday I did two hour Tempo workout, I couldn’t be bothers with the 30 mins @ 140 watts, so only did 15 (so a 1:45 workout) in Erg mode and my score is 9.3
I agree with this, but my work travel has increased (new job) and is more variable / dynamic, so I try to balance my desire to map out the plan months in advance with the extreme flexibility that JOIN gives.
With your example above, in TR I would have tried to do all of the workouts back-to-back-to-back (low volume plan), which is not advisable but what my OCD would want me to do. In JOIN I just set availability to 0, like you did, and let the plan adapt on a daily basis.
As I type this I think is one of the key differences between the two approaches. Assuming a TR LV plan with one VO2, threshold, and sweet spot workout per week, TR tends to treat them largely independently of each other, so a failed or skipped workout (e.g. VO2) would adjust next week’s VO2 workout and the following VO2 progression, but rarely adjusts the other workouts. JOIN seems to take a more holistic approach. I’m enjoying this aspect a lot, but it is a bit tempered by not being able to see the whole plan, even if I know it will change.
Directly into Zwift. Zwift seems to aim for the dead center of the prescribed range. Did a ERG workout Thursday and got a 9.5 on that one. Know I did the workout correctly except for the cadence. About 5 over the low cadence work and 5 under the zone 2 work.
I think what I’d personally like is not being able to see my future plan, but just being able to tell JOIN a list of dates that I’ll be unavailable for so that when the plan gets to that point it knows it already. Future holiday/I’m away input.
This is a great point, and one (of many) features that TR nailed.
Did your RPE assessment match theirs?
And recently removed 
Really? I can still create and edit annotations where “time off” is an option. Does it no longer adapt the plan?