JOIN cycling app

Thats broadly the type of thing I get when doing the workouts in Resistance mode anyway.

There’s a trade off sometimes. Some sessions I will do “properly” and use the turbo, but if I’m riding outside and it’s a choice between doing it imperfectly or not doing a structured session at all, I’ll give it a go and do the efforts on the stretches of road that work regardless of whether they’re spaced as they should be. Particularly on the commute where my route choice is fairly limited so I can’t just find better roads and doing it inside won’t get me home! It took me a long time to get my head to accept that was ok though.

Do you need training peaks premium to edit the workout? I don’t have premium and haven’t figured out how to edit the workout… TIA

Maybe, I have premium so don’t know whether you can do it without.

Premium isn’t required. To edit the workout you go into the workout in TrainingPeaks and click on the bars that represent each interval. It then opens it fully and you can edit it. … if that makes sense.

I’ll check it out later tonight, I’ll report back! Thank you both

I had a cursory look at the app back in 2019 or 2020 with a free trial, but didn’t see the value to me then and stuck with TR. I think I would probably have a different view on that today, but I can’t activate another trial, so I’m hoping someone could answer the following.

Does Join have a plan that would be targeted at preparing for a multi day (20) mountainous event? Looking for repeatable competitiveness rather than training to complete, so initially I would be looking to boost FTP back to where it has been (lots of reasons :roll_eyes:), and then make the training event specific.

Thanks from one old cyclist to another @Dougal.Doughnut !

That looks like it could be perfect for my needs. If you throw in the parameters for the multi day event, does it spit out a recommended duration for the plan?

The tour is the Grand Tour of the Pyrenees (and a bit of Provence)

17 days riding in a 19 day tour starting mid May 2024
1850km or 109 per average
34000m climbing or 2000 per day average

A great challenge for my 61st year!

One last question if you don’t mind.

If Multi Day Events creates a plan from now through to the event, does it explicitly include other plans (I.e. FTP Builder) as a component of the overall plan, or is it presented as one plan that may or may not include an FTP building component?

I suppose if it is the latter, I could do FTP builder first, then create a Multi Day Event plan

Our winter in New Zealand isn’t too bad, but i tend to ride indoors during the week (Zwift with TR or TP) and get outside in the weekends.

Was wondering about Garmin execution score vs JOIN workout score, so I used the Garmin today (I strongly prefer my Wahoo, and every time I use the Garmin that just becomes more and more true). Garmin execution score: 24%, JOIN workout score: 5.6. Yet again the JOIN score felt more in line with what I’d give as a score personally.

Why do I feel so stupidly pleased that a computer algorithm has given me an excellent score after my workout. Strange

@carytb Indeed, and it’s seemingly motivating too.

Question for the Join users - what’s the best way to use an alternate way to get FTP (WKO5, TR AI etc) instead of the FTP test workouts that will keep popping up in the plan?

The last time one popped up I just did it using the alternate method, updated the FTP, and I think the FTP test just went away.

You only get one every 3 months or so. But yeah, I tried skipping it, but it just moved. I ended up doing it, because I was curious, but I think you could just to some sort of other ride, pretend it was the FTP test (keep “suggested workout” ticked), and then manually change your FTP.

Same on the cycling holiday plan.

3 of us are going to Altea near Benidorm and are just staying at one hotel. I chose holiday because that is basically what it is. We plan to ride every day , some days long some shorter. If we miss a day we’re not that bothered , we’ll just go in the pool or go down onto the beach. The only competitive element will be if we chase each other to the top of an hill. Given that I weigh about 25 kilos more than them I’ll only be competitive on the downhill bits anyway. Hopefully a few nice leisurely lunches will be taken.

Enjoy. I spent a week in Calp beginning of March. Amazing region for cycling.

I haven’t tried either of the plans. But to me, it sounds like the main difference is maybe not what you end up doing while on holiday, but what you do before. With the stage race plan, you train hard to get in race shape. You’ll be tired from training. With the cycling holiday plan, you train a bit easier - the aim is to have a nice holiday you can enjoy. I’d imagine there will be more endurance rides and less vo2max/anaerobic capacity.

I sort of think “cycling holiday” is for club riders that do a longer ride over the weekend, and maybe 1-2 rides a week, but don’t really “train”. Then they decide to have a “cycling holiday” and realise they’ll need a bit more fitness.
The multi-day event plan is for racers used to training, who have entered a very long, hard event. It’s likely just harder, with more top-end efforts, and if all that you want is to survive multiple days of riding in a row, without going very hard, than it might be too much work.