Been a TR user for many years and have a very stable FTP, if it does change I am pretty sensitive to it changing and can usually guess my ramp test (and 20min) results within a couple of watts.
I had a month off structured (lol, make that any) training and was feeling a bit weak. Dropped my ftp manually from 317 to 305 earlier in the week, did a couple of workouts and was thinking I may have dropped it too much as the workouts weren’t really that hard. Was just about to bump it up another 5 to 310 but then I saw the new detection feature.
Deleted my manual drop to 305 and did the AI detection: it told me 309, within 1w of my estimate. So if the AI is dumb… I’m no smarter…
How did you force detection? I deleted my last ftp update from my ftp history, added a ramp test to my calendar but nothing happened (yes I enabled ftp detection in early access) I just get an option to load the test
Edit: got it, had to move the planned workout first
Edit2: same thing happened although i got 242 on the ramp test January 30th my new calculated ftp was only 239 in spite of doing more difficult workouts and marking them easy
My ftp went up 3% and my PL did revert. For instance SS went from 5.4 to 4.2.
However the workouts on my calendar did not adapt. Next week I’m supposed to start build 2 and my Tue is a ramp test. Next Thursday was and still is a 4.9 SS. So it knocked “me” back to 4.2 but it’s still planning for me to ride a 4.9. Even if it later suggests adaptations, I can reject and keep the current workouts
If I complete the planned workout, it will immediately bump me back to close to where I was. If I don’t complete it then maybe I need to accept the adaptations.
When you lower your ftp from 276 to 260 a month ago cause of lack of training during winter. And the detecter now says 258 love when you have the same feelings for each other.
Trainerroad i love you
Slightly odd situation in that I had my FTP at 315, then tapered for two weeks for a 100mile mtb race that got cancelled at the last minute (Covid). Just rode without Garmin for the last week and a half. FTP prediction went down to 289. Did a club race tonight an Garmin came back with FTP of 311. n=1. Going to stick with the 289 and see how it rolls with a crit plan now that everything is cancelled for the foreseeable other than Crits and club races
Not really if you are one of the outlier that test high (same goes for outliers that test low just the other way) the process is dialing you in. Congrats on your true/ training increase
YES, I am sold, just tried it and AI added 5W to my FTP!!!
But seriously, this adjustment was spot on as I have recently dropped FTP from 270W to 235W when I started again after being out for couple of months. Now back at it for 3 weeks and last week it did feel like I was ready to increase the intensity up a notch.
[edited this: I was experiencing the same error as several others yesterday and again this morning, but then it eventually “took” and I have a shiny new FTP]
I am liking this feature. I’ve been procrastinating my re-test for a couple of weeks now, as I often do. I perform fine on ramp tests, and they are representative of the subsequent workouts that I can accomplish, but there’s always a workout that I would find more productive or fun. This is a very nice addition, and I like that it will learn and self-refine over time as it gets more data. Thanks team!
I bailed very early, FTP would have been over 10% down, so I ignored the new FTP but did manually adjusted my FTP from 278 to 270, which felt more realistic.
Curious to know what the estimation would have given me, I deleted yesterdays manually adjusted FTP from my FTP history and swapped today’s workout for a ramp test, then ran the estimation.
Estimated FTP has come in at 281.
Obviously going to go with the bigger number, but will be interesting to see who was right.
Can’t help being reminded of this experiment. Am I following a bin into burning building?!
Thanks. This is definitely a step in the right direction. I’m really looking forward to see the validity of this over the coming months. Great work TR team
Garminb gave me an FTP of 264 on January 14th I hadn’t done a ramp test for a couple months and had very scattered riding over the holidays but my last ramp test was 270. The AI dropped me to 265 which seems about right
love when you have the same feelings for each other.
