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That’s probably the way to handle it for now. Either update the survey on mobile (I’ve had no sync issues with Android personally) or on the web for now while the support team fixes the desktop version sync problem.

Just leave the app open for 5 minutes after you enter a survey response and it’ll sync over

I’m not sure that’s right, as I’m now missing at least 5 survey responses and surely they’d have synced over when the app was open for later sessions?

Once you close they are lost if they haven’t been sent over. Try leaving it open after saving the response and see what happens

To further add to this, at the top of the calendar page is a little refresh button. When it is syncing, it will be spinning. When it stops spinning, you should be safe to close the app as it should be synced across devices at that point.

I never close the app and it doesn’t work. So, I think a fix is still necessary.

So going from 4.2 to 3.3 in sweet spot after 2 weeks is normal? Seems kind of excessive looking at the differences in workouts. With this decay rate you pretty much will always have inaccuracies because there are too many zones to target so if you focus on endurance your SS/Vo2 zones will fall grossly, switch focus to Vo2 and what happens to endurance and tempo? You don’t just lose the fitness

I still think the decay is incorrect, in my uneducated I’m not a coach opinion.

Surprised to see AT schedule a STRETCH workout for Thursday after Tuesday’s Ramp Test. I wouldn’t think AT would schedule stretch workout and this is a first for me. Well, I finished it and marked it Very Hard as it was. I am rewarded with new adaptions to even higher level VO2 workouts going forward :grimacing:.

Anyone else have AT schedule stretch workouts?

Yes. Earlier this season when I was in base and build, I would get stretch workouts on Thursdays and sometimes on Sundays. The rest of the workouts would either be in the achievable or productive category.

BUT HOW DO YOU UPDATE THOUGH!?! :flushed: :joy:

That could be a contributing issue, you could be running a suuuuuuuper old version if you never close the app and let the update take place. Either way, Id check with support@trainerroad.com as its not the normal experience you’re encountering. Sorry for the trouble!

Hi @IvyAudrain. I should clarify. I close it when a new update is downloaded so I think i’m on the latest version. Regardless, I did submit a ticket a couple days ago so the team is aware and they said it was being worked on and would be released soon.

Alas I train in the garage so hanging around 5 minutes isn’t a realistic option (everything gets turned off and I go straight in for a shower).

I’ll just do the website option.

Also, this doesn’t just seem to affect workout surveys. I’ll often pick an alternative session using the desktop app in the house, check it’s synced with the website and then head into the garage… only to find that the app in the garage doesn’t pick it up (even after clicking the refresh button and waiting for it to finish).

BIG Adaptive Training updates that are now live!

  1. TrainerRoad workouts scheduled outside are now classified as passes and contribute to your Progression Levels once any outside workout file is associated with them! Just make sure you mark as ā€˜outside’ prior to associating to ensure it will go towards your Progression Levels. You dont even have to push the workout to your head unit for it to get marked as a pass.

  2. Workouts moved to a different day will now stay associated with the plan and be able to/remain eligible for adaptations. This is also a ā€œmoving forwardā€ fix, so if you’ve already moved a workout up to this point it will likely remain disassociated from the plan. We need to double-check on app changes for this, but its definitely live on the web!

Awesome work TR Team!

Great news on the updates… but it’s not retroactive right?

My PL are almost all down to 1 since I’m exclusively outside this time of year.

Correct, it’s not retroactive and will only impact stuff from here forward.

ETA: Apparently if you did outside workouts in the last 7 days, you may still be able to set an association between one you did that was scheduled (and presumably not already associated). So that may work in some cases.

Should we be automatically prompted with a survey when we complete the outdoor workout? I still had to manually click on Missing Response to fill out the survey for my outdoor workout Saturday. I’m assuming that means no prompt quite yet. Additionally, I didn’t have the option to answer the survey on Android mobile, and I’ve followed up on an active support ticket I’ve got in that regard.

That said, I can confirm that I received the pass survey and upon answering it, my level appears to have adjusted relative to the finished workout! :tada: :tada: For added reference, I use a Wahoo head unit. That should excite many folks on the forum!

I completed McAdie a few minutes ago. I noticed that clicking on any of the :grey_question: button would return NULL.

I should add that I did add 10 minutes to the CD.

Also, this is from the desktop application 2021.30.0139 on MacOS BigSur 11.2.2.

Those ? buttons are for the pending ā€œtipsā€ info with more details about each optio, as we request in the survey response thread.

The ones in the Struggle have good info and they seem to still be working on adding those in the Pass, or there is a bug if they already have it somewhere.

If I remember correctly, in the past if you did a ride outside and then tried to add a workout after the fact it wouldn’t count toward AT or progression.

Is this now different, where we can take a ride and outdoors and associate it with a workout? Or do we still need to have a workout scheduled before we go do the ride.