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i am in contact with support, atm it looks like all Desktop Apps have sync probs (beta and production on MacOS and WIN), for example, when i set a running workout to finish, i have to start the App, try a sync on calendar, nothing happens, when i close and start the app again, the calendar is synced correctly with the finished run workout, same thing for workout associations and so

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Thanks, but I’m after the one regarding responses to the Strggle survey. I’ll keep looking.

Survey for outside unstructured rides on web is not loading.

When I click into ā€œupdate survey responseā€ it just gives me a spinning thingy and no options load.

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If you inform the machine that the reason you failed a workout was that you were tired - presumably implying you could’ve completed it if not tired - then it seems reasonable (sensible) to me that your PL for that energy system/training zone shouldn’t really be adjusted downwards, and thus future workouts in that system probably don’t require adaptations.

Clearly, I don’t know if that’s what actually happened, but that behaviour would seem reasonable to me.

If, come my next workout, I knew I was still carrying too much fatigue making a failure nailed-on, I’d consider either selecting an easier Alternate at a lower Difficulty Level, or if really knackered choose perhaps a recovery workout or take the day off.

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Same for me

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Apologies of this has been answered before but it’s a monster thread.

When do I need to retest ftp (if at all)?

After 8 weeks or so I feel like my fitness has increased. I am at 7.6 vo2 and finding workouts easy enough.

Does at prompt a test or do I just do one when I feel it’s needed?

Do one when it appears in your plan. If you are keen (weirdo!) then sub out one workout in the week following a recovery week.

TR have said that the ultimate aim for AT is for you to not need to do an FTP test but that’s probably some way off.

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Never keen on ftp tests as they make me cry.

Weirdly I don’t have any scheduled tests in my calendar. I will add one for next week as I am on a recovery week atm. Thanks for the reply.

Are you in Specialty? That block generally doesn’t have ramp tests in it from what I’ve experienced.

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Same here. Had the problem last evening; completed the survey, then went in to change my response and spinning wheel. This morning survey still is not loading.

On a positive note, last evening’s PL increase was only showing on the web career page last night, not on calendar or workout card. This morning it’s showing on all three :+1: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I have submitted the below to support, posting here because I’m curious if anyone else is experiencing this

Completed a workout on the windows application this morning and was not prompted with a survey upon completion.

No big deal, closed the app, went over to the web browser to add a response and it showed up as ā€˜Cut short’. To be clear - the workout was not cut short, and was completed in its entirety

I clicked the survey response in an attempt to update to the correct response, but no survey comes up. When I click other recent rides I am able to modify the survey response for them, but for this ride I am unable to get the survey to pop-up

Will see what support says - but am interested to know if its a one-off with this ride or something that others are experiencing

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The other issue I noted was that I did not get the struggle popup this morning when I answered the survey. I wasn’t sure I struggled so didn’t think much of it. Later checked and saw it was ā€œmissing response.ā€ Answered the survey at that time and got the struggle survey. So something is definitely wrong. I’m running windows version and it updates automatically.

That’ll be it!

cheers.

I’ve deliberately NOT done an FTP test in this block as I want to see how the PLs progress up - if I did one now my FTP will go up (currently set to 275, I believe a test will put me in the 280-285 region), and that would drop all my PLs back down to some degree (I don’t really need to do a test to set my FTP pretty accurately anyway).

Neat thing today, I reassessed the workout I did Tuesday based on reading the screenshots above and downgraded it from 3 to 2 - all my upcoming Threshold workouts effectively got pulled a week closer with next weeks’ being dropped and replaced with the week after etc. I know this is what AT is supposed to do, but it’s cool to see it in action.

You don’t need to test. If you manually adjust your FTP upwards, AT will reduce your PLs, adapt your plan, and you can start building back up again. I just did this on Tuesday and would say that AT is a little over aggressive in adjusting the PLs, but hopefully a couple stretch workouts will have things back on track.

Sorry for the trouble, please check in with support@trainerroad.com about this. Thanks in advance!

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Support got back to me with the following reply

I see what you mean that the workout has been marked as cut short when it shouldn’t have been. Taking a look around, it seems that this is an issue that we’re aware of and are working on finding a fix for. That being said, I don’t have a timetable on when a fix for this could be ready. =(

Unfortunately, based on this, we aren’t able to change the response, and this is also why you weren’t prompted to update the response since the response can’t be changed.

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Is there a suggestion to get around the sync issues, should I just not bother setting a survey response on the desktop app and then sort it out on the website later?

You think that TR has a buggy AT? You think you understand how the system works? Then there’s more to come! Then you’d better start following this and similar topics:
https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2021/08/05/the-ml-uncertainty-revolution-is-now/

And good luck with all that!