How is Adaptive Training working out for everyone?

They can read the thread, no? That way everyone knows of the problem, not just me.

Sure, but people rely on that too much IMO.

  1. Sending direct to support is best to make sure it gets to them. Forums are handy, and most gets read, but stuff can slip through the cracks.

  2. Once sent to them, it lands in their system for tracking. The issue will be addressed, even if the only result is a ‘Sorry, can’t fix it right now’. It is logged and can help show the severity of an issue if multiple people are reporting common issues or concerns.

  3. Sharing separately to the forum (like I did in the original discussion of the Alternate issue above) is great for and FYI to the community. But not everyone sees those either. If a person contacts TR support, even if it’s for a repeat issue, they will definitely get the same answer you get.

Moral of the story, please start with TR support, and share here after if you’d like. The first step is the only guaranteed way they will get it, and is the best way to hopefully get your issue addressed even if it isn’t a solution for today.

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I doubt they do.

emailing support is the way to go, it puts the bug into the system so that it can be tracked, tasks and software changes linked to it.

Edit: I used to work in software for major consumer products, nothing was done to the software without a bug number for fixing problems or a task number for new work.

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Does TrainNow meet your needs for the most part?

I’m sorry but this is getting slightly ridiculous.

Don’t get me wrong. I like TR, avid user of their product, frequent listener of the podcast. But I do pay for a product, an element of that product isn’t working and continues to not work on various levels. I’ve decided to stop using that function as a result. I posted an off the cuff quasi rant on the subject. And the TR cult comes out to tell me I should be a product developer for TR and help them make their product better so they can…make more cash/help the “community”.

If the company isn’t religious screening the forum for bugs that isn’t my problem, tbh I give them more credit than that and assume they are. Ivy does a fantastic job on this forum.

Sometimes they do read the forum and respond but I wouldn’t blame them for missing something in some of the massive threads; I know I do.

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  • Copy that. I and others were simply offering suggestions to help.

  • You are free to ignore them if all you wanted was a rant/vent.

Well the advice was talk to support. Something as I said in my original comment I’ve already done. And something which is redundant now I now longer wish to use it.

Apologies if I misunderstood the title of the threat, it seemed to invite people’s opinions and experiences of AT, so I shared mine.

That is exactly what it’s for. But along the way, sometimes we see points that might be addressed with questions or suggestions to try and improve the experience overall. Again, trying to help if / when possible.

Being new here and exploring what AT can do for me, I am wondering if there is a way to summarize discussions.
I don’t mind reading some longer ones that interest me but I am getting overwhelmed by the massive number of posts.
Is there a page you can visit that summarizes the content or groups them so you can select which ones you want to read?

No idea if there’s summaries but yes it is easy to get overwhelmed by some threads :+1:

A quick follow up to make it clear on what happened to me yesterday. I replaced the workout prior to getting ready (setup, change, etc). When I jumped on the bike to start is when AT gave me the prompt to adapt back to the previous type of workout originally suggested. Not the exact one, but similar.

Just wanted to point out that I had not replaced the workout earlier in the week or last week. I did it approximately 15 minutes prior and AT still suggested I do what was originally planned. So, I’m not sure what time frame is being suggested for replacing a workout so AT doesn’t try to adapt.

I’ve replace workouts in the minute before starting them, i.e. as late as possible. Start up the app on the iPad, select the day’s workout then select the alternate.

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No real summaries to point to. That would take some serious time depending on the topic, and even I’m not wiling to set that aside for this “hobby” of mine :stuck_out_tongue:

Some individual posts will get a flag of “TrainerRoad Approved” with a nice box around them. But other answers are just mixed among the rest of the thread.

Wish I had better news, but we don’t have much for easy options here.

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So I likely then make a mess of it. I find the alternate I want which I then select and put on the day I will do it. I leave the workout AT had scheduled on the calendar. I do my workout and then delete the workout they indicated. So today was a VO2 workout at essentially the same PL level but what I wanted was longer intervals. It still adapts future VO2 workouts. I just hate trying to find the workout I want as I tend to plan my week in advance.

That, I’ve found, does mess with the system.

95% of the time, I accept what AT proposes. The only exceptions are a) when it proposes adaptations right as I open the app to start training, because I just got the 14-days-since-last-workout-of-this-category wall (I refuse the adaptation then), or b) I have less (or more) time available, and switch to an alternate, or c) it’s proposing me the same boring workouts over and over again during recovery weeks (Pettit!!!) and I can’t stand it anymore.

In all these cases, I refuse the adaptations or switch the workout, load it and ride it. That works.

Can you show me an example of this, please?

This should only happen if something else out of the ordinary happened (like you did a harder workout or you failed a workout; like that).

@ambermalika can you look into this? I also feel like we might consider a “lock” button or something on workouts so people can say “don’t adapt this!”

Are you saying you could be a VO2 Max 10 but a Threshold 4? And then you can’t keep pushing VO2 up while you work on threshold because there’s no room?

Thanks for the feedback!!

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We already have an issue for this! Was just speaking with Brandon about it yesterday. I’ll add it to our Monday meeting. :slight_smile:

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Sure:

Monitor +4 vs Rendondo -3
Window vs Gayley
Antelope +3 vs Venado
Geiger +2 vs Wrangell -2

These may be anomalies, I haven’t done an exhaustive search and acknowledge that PLs are, to some extent, subjective. But to me these are examples of 1hr workouts which are mentally and physically much harder than 1.5hr at similar levels (time constrained athlete, so 1-1.5hr is my universe).

Regarding PLs not LfL:

For me, and could well be just my physiology and time constraints, the SS workouts (e.g., Venado+1, 7.5) became daunting and draining towards the top of the PL range but my Threshold I still wanted to grow (PL 5.5). Vo2 - Bashful+1 did very little for me at 7.1 (didn’t even feel close to a fish out of water, HR at level of SS work) which was after increasing it from PL 6 the week before, so was looking for 8s to find something hard for next week, but the 5.5 threshold were still solid. Ultimately work + newborn stress told me I needed a recovery week and didn’t see it through to level 10s (had 2 weeks left of Base II), which I’m kind of thankful for as the >7.5 SS 1hr look horrendous and probably too much for straight out of bed 5:30am.

Definitely was the case before, now that my FTP is at an all time high, I’m totally fine with AT dropping my PLs and successfully completing my workouts :grin: