Close, but I’m 5’ 10" so not quite aligned there. 
I was 5’ 11" in my college days and found that shrinking spine we seem to get after a bit of time.
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Good points there.
I would like the data to be curated with the “reputable” trainers.
Meaning you want a region based filter as well?
99th percentile 
- I don’t feel 99%
Im 65kg which pats my ego but I know anyone out here with the same wkg but is heavier is gonna drop me without a bother!
Indeed, this would be really cool.
My FTP is not too good but decent. In same time, hours I put in, are above average.
Basically, modest genetics + hunger to ride → proud average cyclist 
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What about us elders? 70+, 80+, etc.
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As a 74 year old, I know that my decline is more noticeable year on year. Significantly different to my pre-70 age. Am I unique, I doubt it. In TT there is a spread of performance within each 10 year bracket. But as new athletes join the 70+ those athletes are always fastest, for a year, only to be replaced by the next 70 year old. Hence, I like to see annual brackets for the older athletes. At least I think it might be worthwhile checking your data to see if my observations bear weight.
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Iirc correctly I posted a topic once here (or someone else did and I reposted it elsewhere) with a scientific paper on performance of cross country skiers vs age which showed performance slightly declined from the mid 40s until somewhere in the mid 70s and then suddenly decreased greatly
Personally I would like to know how I stack up to others for my height (or height²) instead of weight @Nate_Pearson
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Referring to @Nate_Pearson video, ie Masters athletes. If declining Maximal Stroke Volume (MSV) is the most likely cause of age related lowering performance, what training provides the best means of improving MSV?
Hence, working towards raising the older athletes average FTP vs other TR athletes.
Further are the TR Masters plans targeting it? I don’t get that feeling, rather they seem to target athletes requiring longer recovery.
Also training age.
But better recovery equates to being able to do higher intensity days. I would expect being able to do harder work consistently will lead to being better able to maintain FTP.
I’m not implying there aren’t benefits of recovery. But, if these are actually about MASTERS, rather than athletes needing extra recovery, then my understanding is MSV needs to be a driver of the plans. But, so far has not even been mentioned. I have a recollection of hearing the term in connection with HIIT?
Let’s get all the data metrics involved so I can be the fastest 33 year old male 70kg rider in new hampshire who average 5.66 (repeating of course) hours a week 
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Just looked up the Coggan chart and it puts my 45th percentile TR W/kg at the upper end of “Fair/Cat 5” and bottom row of “Moderate/Cat 4”.
And now I’ve just spent 45 minutes on the Internet and twiddling the calculator finding out that I should lose 15 lbs (I really should lose at least 10 without worrying about W/kg) and gain another 30 Watts above and beyond where I was before I spent January off the bike… 45 minutes I should have spent already on the trainer!
Now head over to Intervals.icu and see a proper chart with age breaks as well as full range data (not just FTP). It’s far better than this narrow snapshot.
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Hahaha, 10-12 hours/week structured training got me to 42nd percentile. What a waste of time and energy.
- Serious or joking?
semi serious, not training anymore and much happier for it. After 2 months just riding twice a week for funsies, I can still hold my FTP for 50 minutes.
“Comparison is the thief of joy” Theodore Roosevelt
We can’t all be top performers so I’d wager we are better to “find our why” in something other than chasing numbers against others, be that charts like this, podium spots or even that county line sprint. That is why these types of tools are a bit of a double-edged sword. Can be good for some uses and poor for others.
All well & good to have some goals like that, but fixation on them or notable disappointment in falling short can lead to feelings like you’ve and many others shared around here. I see those as signs that it might be good to take a different look or direction.
We all find joy in different ways but it seems best if there is at least some of that linked to our efforts or it truly is a waste, regardless of the results. Sounds like you’ve done that in ways which is a good deal from what I see. 
ETA: Re-listening to last week’s podcast, there is some worthwhile perspective from an Olympic level athlete at the tip top that was not fulfilled even being part of that rare air. Interesting to hear that perspective despite what many of us below that might think if we were able to get there.
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I’m just poking fun at myself, I’m a thicc boi so I know exactly why I’m below average on the curve