What did we say that was negative about Nice? I’m personally in favor of the change and my co-hosts expressed similarly.
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Jonathan, “Moab sucks.” Also Jonathan, has a 120mm slammed stem on his Epic 
I love you guys, but sometimes the podcast is hard to listen to and I yell at the stero in my truck 
On modern MTBs and weight. XC race 29rs are slightly heavier than race bikes used to be, but they also don’t crack in half anymore.
Appreciate you listening!
It’s okay for me to not like Moab, and it’s also okay for me to have a longer stem on my XC bike that I don’t ride at Moab 
FWIW I’ve never ridden Moab on my Epic. I’ve ridden there on a Giant Reign, Yeti ASR, Yeti SB5.5, and Yeti SB150, and even on bigger bikes I just don’t enjoy the riding there.
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I’m just being an ass. I totally understand, I just laughed at how hard you guys went this episode. Hot takes episodes are some of my favs.
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Hot take - Bentonville has WAY better riding than Moab.
Yeah…I went there. 
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I need to start a Bentonville post. I’m headed there for Bike Fest at the end of May for a trials comp and wondering if I should haul my trail bike too?
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100% yes……just fantastic trails that you can literally ride to from town.
Was thinking of going down around the same time as a final prep before FNLD GRVL, but don’t know if it will work out. But I would honestly bring all my bikes….road, gravel and MTB (ok, I’d rent a MTB since I don’t actually own one less than 20 years old. 
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Quick video I took of a descent in Slaughter Pen……the second half of the descent was not finished, as you can tell when it straightens out. Again, you can ride to this from town.
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One other video of some other trails….filmed the same day, so these wer all part of the same ride.
“I totally understand. I would not want to go race in Nice.”
I think you were voicing the thoughts of people who’d ‘trained for Kona’ rather than ‘trained for Ironman World Championships’, but clickbaity, out-of-context pull-quotes are such fun. 
You view Jon responding and clarifying as “policing”? It’s not like he’s in here deleting people’s comments.
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@jonathan [1:10:56] Stevia is an extract of the plant Stevia rebaudiana, which is native to Latin America. it isn’t synthetic.
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It’s not a “problem”. It’s just that your bike fit should be appropriate for your fitness level otherwise you’ll be uncomfortable and it will make it more difficult to improve. I think ideally everyone “should” have a pro like fit, but that just means ideally everyone “should” be a very fit and flexible person. I don’t think anyone can rightly make blanket statement a which was the only problem I had with the hot take and some of the hot takes in general, they lack nuance.
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Anyone else who thinks that long, indoor endurance rides (even at 75-80% ftp) ARE therapy? I regularly do 3-4 hours on the rollers inside without any music, podcasts, or entertainment. With time, you learn to just sit with your own thoughts for hours on end without getting bored - it’s incredibly peaceful. While I will agree with Jonathan in that they are not “comfortable” or “easy”, that doesn’t make them any less therapeutic. I mean, have you ever been to therapy?? That ain’t typically too comfortable either…
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I agree ideally a fit ,I would think should allow you to be comfortable without needing to sacrifice power and aero. Everyone has different anatomy so not all peoples fits can be identical. Below are two extremes and I get one is CX and the other is road, but putting that into consideration they are both radically different.
Do pros have a “race fit” for their race bike and a “training fit” for the another bike? Or do they try to keep it pretty similar?
For example, a pro who might have two of the same xc bike (one for training, one for racing) but different fits specific for what they are doing… OR completely different bike (trail bike)… same “race” fit or different set up specific for the bike?
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I think you’re missing the point of my hot take.
My line of logic would say: if you can’t find the time to do Van Der Poels volume then you have bigger problems in your life than selecting your volume. Which is entirely accurate - a job, genetic limitations, young children etc.
The point is that the pro fit represents a physiological optimal point. Not being able to reach doesn’t mean the problem is with the fit but the rider. It isn’t the bikes fault, and it doesn’t mean the fit is bad. Realising this helps you understand (and then approach and manage) your problems.
You can either put 5cm of stack under your stem or you could realise you lack mobility and take up yoga…
You are way tougher mentally than me,
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And me. I can’t watch stuff, but podcats and/or music are pretty much mandatory.
I thought I was hard as nails for only listening to music when I train.
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