Horse passing etiquette?

I have this one on the gravel bike, and on my commuter(s).

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I see they have a Compact for 22.2 ā€˜flat bars’. Is that the one you have?

DUH!! Flat bar meaning like a MTB. :roll_eyes: :man_facepalming:

No, I use the regular one….worked well on my steerer tube (goes around your spacers) or on my ENVE bars. I did a little pre-shaping of the band before mounting it and then let the pressure from the clamping process finish it. I did also use a small piece of HB tape on the bottom of the band to prevent it from scratching the bar.

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I’ve had people complain about one of my bells, but at least they heard it!! :roll_eyes:

So on top, not underneath? I’ve got nothing above the bar. I suppose I could use a cut piece of steer tube and a spacer with the cap. Hmm… It looks like the Compact possibly won’t work, as it sounds like it’s supposed to go between the stem and beginning of the flatness. I’ll have to mount the Edge differently. There isn’t enough room to be hording bling on the front end. Hah!!

I did get this guy for the gravel bike, and it looks great. Hmm…

General passing people comment: it is incredible how many people will turn to see you coming, stop, and then move deliberately directly into your path instead of out of the way. They honestly think they are moving aside when they weren’t in the way in the first place…then move directly into your path. It’s like bread always falling on the buttered side. Unbelievable.

So, they were going in the wrong direction (like pedestrians)? Is that normal for horses? The only time I’ve encountered horses on pavement, they’ve been pulling buggies (Amish or Mennonite) and going with the normal flow. I see horses pretty regularly on our gravel roads and single track.

I just call out as soon as I can in a friendly way. I don’t yell ā€œLEFT!ā€ or ring the bell - I just try to say ā€œHi, bike back!ā€ or similar.

Once every few years, I’ll run into a horse that spooks easy and the rider asks us to stop completely or similar. Usually the rider just reins in the horse, moves to the side, and waves us by. Either way, I go slow and stay as far away as possible.

Couple months ago did a gravel race in Amish country Ohio. A group of about 15 of us were suddenly upon a horse and wagon coming in the opposite direction. We were on a narrow gravel road in a forest, with little light. With no warning, were all right there at the same time, and going fast. The horse stopped, spooked and began to rear up. I thought things were going to get real ugly fast. Instantly the driver jumped off the wagon like Suspendered Superman, reached up and grabbed the horse at the bridle and got it under control. I was most grateful and impressed. I’m sure the driver was pissed.

It is sideways, so the bell sits with the striker facing up and you flick it with your thumb. I’m traveling and can’t snap a pic of it right now unfortunately.

I hadn’t thought of doing that, but the factory setup on this Roubaix is not tall by any measure.

I was going to check with the LBS and see if they have ever gotten the ā€˜long’ Spurcycle strap. It’s probably time to revisit this issue if I’m hoping to ride more this season.

Thanks for your comments! I DO love the Spurcycle and hope I can make it work.

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That’s how I treat horses, but it’s also exactly how I treat people. Everyone deserves respect.

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I’ve spoken to a few horse-ists about this and they all said that the best thing to do is slow down and chat calmly with the horse rider. It helps the horse know you’re a human and they’re apparently more likely to trust you if they see their rider trusts you.

I don’t have a hover bar, but my Spurcycle is mounted on the drops, where I can flick it when my hands are in position to brake. I’ve never understood why more people don’t have a bell.

Slow down, shout / announce bike (in a friendly manner) move across as far to the other side of the road as possible, go past slowly, if you have a crazy load hub soft pedal to keep the noise down. Most horse riders I meet on rides are fine and appreciative if you give them enough notice.

Aero drag. :crazy_face:

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:roll_eyes: Wouldn’t doubt that some would use that excuse. Anyone from NYC that can comment on their bell requirement? Are they actually enforcing that regulation/law?

I literally got questioned / called out on this board about it! I asked for solutions for mounting a bell on aero HB for a gravel bike. Someone responded with basically ā€œIs this is a joke? Why would you do that?ā€

Ummm…because I use my gravel bike on multi use trails and need to alert people of my presence.

:man_shrugging::man_shrugging::man_shrugging:

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Silly when you consider that if you mounted a Sprurcycle bell facing forward, it’s really quite aero! :face_with_spiral_eyes:

Having been around horses most of my life and having a wife who is a horse rider, I think in general in North America there is the issue where both sides see the other as not getting ā€œitā€. To me it is two sided, the rider should not take a horse on a multi use trail if they are not confident in the horse being under control, then on the other hand the bike rider should understand the the proper way to approach and pass a horse. It take both sides for this to not go bad. Coming upon a horse and rider from behind does take consideration. The rider of the horse may not be aware and that takes the time to say something in a tone that is not startling. Then slowing down to allow the horse and rider to do what they need to before passing. In some cases the rider and horse will just stop, others the rider may turn the horse to see the approaching rider, and in a case of a bomb proof horse they may just say pass. It just takes the time to be courteous for this interaction to be good for all involved.

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I finally put Spurcycle bells on each of my bikes (gravel/road and mtb) last year and it’s been a mixed bag. I hoped it would alert equestrians/runners/walkers to my presence earlier and ease interactions but I often find it less effective than just saying, ā€œHello, coming up behind you.ā€

In my experience, about a third of people hear the bell and move to the side. Great. Another third never hear it and I’m forced to say something (often a runner with earbuds). The final third is the most frustrating: they stop and look around, often asking their companion what the strange noise is then give me a blank stare when I say it was my bell. :man_facepalming:

I find the whole situation a little ironic considering prior to clutch derailuers people used to complain how loud mountain bikes were. Now I’m deliberately adding a noise maker because the bikes are too quiet.