Hammerhead Karoo 3 (May 2024)

This is freaking fantastic info, thanks a ton for taking the time to write this up!

Re: workout screens, do you get a graphical representation of the workout (like TR’s blue blocks) to work from? Some of the images I saw in reviews looked like it just shows you a power range, which seems less good. And I hope/assume associated data fields are customizable?

I’m leaning toward trying the HH I think. I’m in pretty much the same boat as you, long time Bolt user but I find myself really wanting a better screen and improved maps/routing. I have multiple big trips to unfamiliar territory planned for the coming year where I’ll be very reliant on maps and routing info, and the Bolt just feels like very primitive tech at this point.

I haven’t used an Ace but I did get to see/hold one, and it really is just very very very big. Not just screen size but thickness and weight; you could use it to incapacitate a home invader in a pinch. I couldn’t imagine using one for MTB, and at least for now I don’t think I could even mount one on most of my bikes, pending new longer super-reinforced mounts coming out. Plus that means buying all new mounts.

The 1050 seems to be the current standard, but my past experience with Garmin has not endeared that UI to me. I’m in Seattle so ride a lot in rain, cold and wet, and while I know the screen is supposed to be quite good I prefer not to be totally reliant on a touchscreen. Many of the size/mount compatibility issues also apply to the 1050; the HH seems like a nice Goldilocks size.

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I’ve used the K2 for a couple years now but workout page and most software is the same. One nice thing is that HH just released a SDK so some apps have been written for things. Just waiting for an easy way to install these apps to the devices.

Yes, BUT the page shows 1 second power with no ability to change it to 3- or 5- second. The workout page with the graphics like TR is not customizable. I’ve set up a 2nd workout page and end up swiping back and forth throughout the workout. Not as slick as the Wahoo workout page, but HH works well and I’m used to it now. I have a workout profile set up so screens I want are the only ones to swipe through.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Karoo/comments/1h3lpbt/minimal_nutrition_reminder_app_built_with_the_new/

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No worries at all :slight_smile: Its hard to get a feeling of how it is to live daily with a lot of devices, so I hoped to give more insight into that.

P.S. I did upload another image now how it looks when you’re on a data page with navigation on, you can see the pill at the bottom :slight_smile:

Yes and no, you can have a screen with all the relevant info, but the workout “sits” in the workout drawer, if that makes sense. I think I would have preferred a workout screen instead, but you get used to it.

The only thing I miss a bit from Wahoo is being able to very easily move between the different intervals in a workout. It’s doable on the Karoo but it’s not as smooth, you need to open the top drawer and “jump” to the next section. This means that there is no visual representation on where you are moving to, like you have on the Wahoo where you can see “oh now I am moving 4 steps forward and starting the main interval” for example.

You can see how it works here: https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/articles/18001019006363-Karoo-OS-Workouts

Seems like they have done some improvements and adaptability to the drawer!

If you are dependant on maps and routing, the Hammerhead is the way to go :slight_smile:

I can also add that I did some testing yesterday, and it seems like the top drawer, let’s call it settings drawer, is only a bit laggy the first time I opened it. It was instant during my whole ride yesterday.

Very similar thing over here in the UK, Hoover brought out a vacuum cleaner decades ago, there are multiple brands now, Dyson, Shark etc, most people still call their Dyson a hoover, and state ‘I’m doing the hoovering’ :joy:

Me, I still call my Karoo 3 my garmin :expressionless:

Ki2 has now been released for the Karoo 3 so it’s possible to connect your Di2 to it. Loads of new updates and things coming for the Karoo at the moment which is exciting

https://www.reddit.com/r/Karoo/comments/1huhzdg/ki2_for_karoo_3/

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Is it easy to create a pace plan for races with the Karoo? Garmin does this very well