Yes, that is a nice writeup, and they seem to be of the view that different indoor and outdoor FTP test results are not a result of difference power at MLSS, but rather other physiological areas unrelated to your actual anaerobic threshold.
thats my take away.
Now, that said. Having different profiles for different bikes and setup does make sense.
This is exactly the issue. My power meter on my outdoor bike reads differently to my trainer, by a reliable amount. Iâve tested the two (tacx flux and stages crank) together, and the offset is predictable.
Short of changing my FTP every time I go outdoors, my outdoor workouts are impossible (because the power meter is reading 8% low), and my outdoor TSS is counting about 8% below.
Thanks for the bump on this feature request! There are definitely a lot of moving parts to make this feature happen, but Iâll reiterate this to them for sure. I can see how managing and updating your FTP before each ride accordingly would be arduous, and how switching a âprofileâ would help tremendously in that scenario!
It doesnât even have to be that complicated. Just build in a field where we can input an FTP offset for outdoor rides. Like right beside the checkbox to mark a ride as outdoor, put field to select an offsetâŚ
I know Iâm in a super small subset of TR users here, but I use TR for both indoor biking and my VasaErg swim machine workouts. It would be awesome to have two different FTPs so that I donât have to manually change between bike FTP and swim FTP multiple times a week. It would also be nice to be able to track the two separate FTP histories over time.
Iâve requested that feature too. Nothing more frustrating than to realize after a workout you forgot to change the setting for both ftp and wheel size.
To have the option of keeping separate histories would be nice.
This opens up the possibility to share accounts between people. Not so good from business perspective.
Sucks when one bad apple (yet to spoil even?) ruins the batch.
I get the concern, but it is quite lame that it may prevent legitimate users with 2 or more devices from handling what is currently a messy problem in their own tracking.
I come from the country where Ikea has had to remodel a couple of times its queue scheme and selling process for hot-dogs, because people were circumventing the system for toppings on the hotdogs. So I deeply understand their stance
If thatâs your concern then just have option for multi sports for example ( Bike,Vasa) but have them all lumped together in the same feed.
Multisports is completely different thing. Probably you can also have device registration as in vod services. But as I said- I always assume people will cheat somewhat and probably there is no solution than be cheat-proof and you calculate these people into your company losses.
If or when TrainerRoad ever has a multi-sport option I will just continue to use my reminder signs saying âChange WHEEL/FTP ?â
Would love to see this feature request, as someone who spends their time switching between road bike and TT. Now that I am in the adaptive training beta, without being to designate separate FTPs or bikes, I am curious how the system will be affected by workouts done on the TT bike where I am putting out threshold efforts, that are more like sweet spot efforts on the road bike.
Eh, Netflix has allowed that for years and theyâre doing just fine as a business.
If youâre even semi committed to TR as a potential customer it doesnât make sense to bum an account for long since you couldnât run simultaneous training plans and youâd be screwing up your partnerâs training stress scores and training adaptations, and it wouldnât sync to your strava so the ride basically didnât happen. I mean it could be done, but itâd be such a hassle for everyone that it wouldnât be worth the $20 savings.
They do want to terminate the practice.
They are leaving a lot of money off the table by âallowingâ it. Although is against their EULA and they can terminate your account at any given time.
I can see where user would want to have multiple ftp profiles for different bikes.
I can also see the need for a âfamilyâ plan. I do not like the idea of paying full price for my wife if she doesnt use TR, but I would be willing to pay x2 TR if I could let my wife and kids use TR.
But thats a different can of warms.
Adaptive training plus buying a TT bike does make me want multiple profiles more to be honest.
I suppose the answer is to just do all my training in my TT position and let my ego suck up the 10% loss in FTP.
I would love this feature. Different use case hereâIâm a triathlete and utilize TR for both biking and my Vasa Swim Erg trainer. FTPâs are very different between the two disciplinesâwould love to be able to set them for both (or once Iâm in AT, not have levels get messed up if I switch from bike FTP to Vasa FTP). While itâs a niche group, there are at least 30 TR members on the Vasa TR team that are likely utilizing TR for both riding and Vasa Swim Erg.
I live in a country where even Ikea had to change itâs âhod dogs with toppingâ system because people were abusing it. And we are talking about 0.5 usd. So for 20 usd people will go a long way:) not because itâs a lot of money but because they can.
I understand why multiple FTPs would be beneficial and do not argue with that.
+1 would love to have a Road, TT, and Outside profile, can also see MTB being valuable. Thanks TR