Something to look forward to when I eventually get mine, I guess. I miss it on my road pedals. On my Rally I usually read -2 to 2 or so, and rightly or not I take that to mean I am in pretty good shape with saddle height and cleat position.
funny you mention the seated vs standing stuff. 2hr ride yesterday and it said i was standing for roughly 30 minutes, which for me is VERY unusual. in a 2hr ride for me this would ordinarily be something like 1-2 minutes of standing. however, in my zeal to test any and all metrics these pedals offer, i made a point of standing as much as possible to see how it would record, so i guess it was possible.
there’s an option in garmin (sensor–>cycling dynamics–>rider pos. trans. time) that lets you adjust the standing recognition time. i want to say it’s 5 seconds (?) by default so i purposely stood while riding and counted to 5 or more before sitting again. they (favero? garmin?) don’t really tell you if it’s 5 seconds and THEN the standing is counted as 1 second, 2 seconds etc or at the 5 second mark you get credit for 5 seconds, 6 seconds etc. if it’s the latter i could see all of the countless little standing bursts adding up over time
also, i have no idea what constitutes “standing” in these cycling dynamics. fully standing for sure, but what about kind of standing with the saddle nose tucked in your tailbone on sketchy downhills? like if i weigh 200lbs do the pedals need to register 200lbs of pressure to be “standing” or is there some offset at play and 150lbs or up is “standing”? i’ll have to test all of this next ride. luckily the garmin data has the position plotted over time horizontally so i can just pick a time and go crazy standing/sitting. btw i have no idea what the vertical column data is supposed to be. 421 to 10104? no clue…
How is “standing” defined? Does it include when you’ve got the pedals a 9 and 3 with your butt hovering over the saddle? If so, I can see that “bumping those numbers up” depending on trail conditions.
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new fw update today btw. from 04.27 to 05.04. nothing on the site to indicate changes. left pedal updated right away but right one took like 5 tries
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Ooooo… Interesting! I’ll dig into the details (if there are any…)
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The standing time reported by my original favero pedals has gone a bit strange - i think they must have altered the method of detecting it - i assume it looks for differences in the power phase?
Mine is also shower far more standing time than i actually did.
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I still don’t know what this means, all the purple dots saying I was pushing power 100% left pedal only…
I understand the Imbalance but I’ll compare with a ride using garmin Rally xc200
MX2
Not nearly as many 100% power Left pedal readings.when using Rally xc200s but same imbalance overall.
I’m not sure if it means anything but it seems odd to me, I definitely wasn’t doing 1 leg drills.
What have you guys ordered the single oder dual version? I am unsure if the dual side are worth the extra costs.
Do you guys use a torque wrench? I have only one with bits not the right kind for the mx.
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I have ordered a single side…I have a single side assioma on my road bike never felt I needed a dual sided.
But for XC and Marathon it might be different.
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I ordered dual side Assioma’s back in 2018 when I broke my hip as I wanted to know how/if my recovery had affected things. After I trusted the healed side, left and right pretty much balanced out. But it does still vary occasionally and I can only put it down to things like getting uncomfortable on long rides with the wrong shorts, or the ride pace being a bit fierce when I’m tired from a previous session, or if it’s wet out and I’m a bit tense about falling off. Never more than 55/45, often more like 48/52 or even 50/50. And not even the same side being lower than the other. Maybe thats a good argument to go dual side, if you’re especially worried about the data being as accurate as it can be.
Since then I have always gone for dual side or power meters that measure total power. Just because I got a few good deals on subsequent pm’s. Went for dual side on the Mx2, again cos it wasn’t that much more.
Do you coast with your left foot forward?
You might be always riding with the same foot forward every time you coast. Then when you start pedaling, or ratcheting your cranks to clear obstacles, or accelerate, you’re always applying that impulse to that forward foot.
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No, I normally always have my right foot forward when coasting. That would make sense, maybe when I start pedaling I use my left foot more?
I don’t know it’s not a dealbreaker at the moment. I’m really only curious why this would show up on the chart more often when compared to other power meter pedals I have used. Maybe it’s how garmin reads the power? No idea
here’s what mine looks like, MX on top, Rally on bottom. for me i believe this to be accurate as i am definitely left-legged and start every mount/dismount with the left foot clipped in first. i also clipped and unclipped a LOT this ride as i was getting used to the cleat engagement (although i would have been doing the same with the rallys…). also it was very muddy and i disengaged the right foot quite a bit the other day to stay upright. in fact from looking at this comparison i’m actually more surprised at the number of R=100% entries. that’s odd for me as you can see from the comparison. will see what it looks like tomorrow
Assioma Pro MX-2
Garmin Rally 200
That’s also a good point with what pedal you clip in first, that kind of depends on the situation for me.
My route today consisted of 5 fences to climb over, maybe that’s playing a role. It probably a non issue but good to share with others to see what they’re seeing. My only concern is that at certain points it’s reading left power only but doesn’t seem to be the case,AFAIK looking at power. I’ll also check after tomorrows ride.
It’d be interesting to throw the bike (or just pedals, via another bike) on a trainer and see what’s reported for L/R. That is, is this dropout of one pedal or just a quirk of real-world riding with lots of coasting and unclipping? Just riding them outdoors on a road bike would be informative; MTB is such a different game in terms of cadence, ratchet-pedaling, balance etc.
Just an observation - I have about the same number of 100% R and 100% L data points as in the graphs above but my average over the rise is either 50-50 or 51-49 depending on the ride. I was thinking that the 100% numbers come from starting to pedal after coasting. I am pretty sure that my first pedal stroke is always one leg or the other and that it doesn’t balance up until a few strokes. It doesn’t seem to affect my average. Also, the graph can’t be showing every single pedal stroke since, at 100rpm , you generate about 6000 revolutions per hour and 6000 data points. There must be some kind of averaging going on in generating the graph.
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heh well for me it’s more like 60rpm 
my trails are brutal in the northeast. rock and root capital of the world 
looks to be the same number of data points that the rallys had, so i’m not sure there’s any difference from what i’m seeing.
i’m pretty much always in the 52/48, 53/47 range but again this was my first ride on the pedals and i had to do a good bit of hunting for the proper right pedal engagement. left was strapped in fine but there were numerous times i was favoring the left foot while pedaling as i was trying to find the cleat-to-pedal click in point on the right side.
it’s a good point about starting from coasting. it’s possible i did a good number of starts with the right pedal after being strapped in. idk, hard to derive anything at this point. it was very much a feeling out session. as such, i can’t read much into the single data session here. another (longer) ride tomorrow, so i should have plenty more to pour over and compare and i’ll be more mindful of stuff like sitting/standing and clicking in was getting easier too. also maybe that fw update yesterday made some changes? idk. we shall see…
Here’s my guess. With Assiomas, the left pedal is the master. The Left pedal is the one sending the signal to the computer. The right pedal links to the left pedal, but it doesn’t actually send any info to the computer. Everything goes through the left. So my guess is that you’re having small mini-dropouts of just the right pedal, so for single data points you’re getting only left sided readings. So if you have a left dropout, you get zero data. But if you have a right dropout, you get only a left reading.
I’ve ordered the dual side because I want to see how the data compares to a single sided stages which I believe is WAY off and my Quarq which seems to be accurate based on efforts.
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