Doesnt Max Heart Rate tell you your FTP?

[WindWarrior]

@hoge

I do like the suggestion to just do an hour test. That way I get the benefit of the workout and the FTP together.

if you haven’t done it before, start at an hour.

@AlistairSH

The premise of the question doesn’t make sense to me…

The whole point of the ramp test is you ride to failure (or close to it). There is no “3 minutes left”. The ramp is on 1-minutes increases, so there’s no steady-state 3 minute block. What am I missing?

Anyway, on ramp tests, my HR usually caps out around 175bpm and my actual max is around 185 (which I only see during certain sprint efforts or racing).

Agree. My general observation - one of the few, if only, workouts to failure in the TR library is the Ramp Test. So it should be no surprise that on the trainer, you’ll likely see the highest HR on the Ramp Test. Because it is one of the few workouts that is designed for you to go to failure.

Outside on group rides and racing is different of course.

[AlistairSH]

@hoge

For me, I know that once I hit 172bpm… I will not make another three minutes. I usually get somewhere between one and two minutes …

Ah, I see what you’re saying now.

During a ramp test, with 1 min jumps of ~15W, by giving up “now” (the second you hit “workout-max” HR), you could be giving up ~10-20W on your FTP (75% of last minute) if you make it 2 minutes at that HR. That’s a significant difference for most of us.

[hoge]

Ok… That makes sense