Doesn't feel worth the effort?

Yeah, gonna agree to disagree with that.

I don’t see Yellows as a bad thing, if anything assuming you’re recovering properly between 100+ TSS days I see it as great. I’ve had weeks since the beta AI with 3 yellow days. Got through all workouts without issue. The workouts have been spot on, I don’t feel like overreaching whatsoever.

If you blow through the yellow days and stack intensity on intensity, that’s an issue. But that’s what red days are for. That calendar looks perfectly reasonable to me for someone trying to get faster.

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i replaced the screenshots of my calendar with better ones from my computer rather than my phone if anyone wants to see it more clearly.

for what its worth i assumed doing endurance on the lower end and active recovery was ok on yellow days and thats what i was doing?

The AI appears to disagree with you here as the Threshold level is dropping throughout the cycle in the updated AI sim window indicating that it is seeing fatigue that is impacting workouts.

Looking at your rides: You’re in the base season.

You often don’t see big jumps in FTP in the base season. It’s about building a robust engine which then enables training to make the bigger gains.

To give an example: in the base season (3 months from October to December) my FTP only went from 290 to 300. In the first 4 weeks of my “build" phase it went up to 310 and is predicting another 10-15 in the next 4 weeks.

Keep plugging away. If you can, do the base season outside - it’s much more enjoyable.

My AI FTP is up 7% since January 19th, I’m not OP. AI workouts have been working great for me.

I was agreeing with Kevs assessment that fatigue appears to be at play. If his threshold levels are dropping down From 4.5 to 3.5 then 2.5 to me that indicates that he may have too many yellow days and would explain why his FTP isn’t going up as fast.

i am in the final week of the build phase and am being predicted a 2w increase after a 6w increase in the base phase

i am not giving myself the yellow days, they are part of the plan?

Have you used the “Check Volume” feature? In my recent experience, it seems the new TR AI tools really emphasizes quality workouts over pure volume. In my case, removing an easy endurance day significantly boosted my FTP prediction (at least until I got sick and missed two key workouts). My suspicion is that the AI is seeing all those endurance workouts as junk mileage that is adding fatigue without a real benefit to FTP.

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I wonder what happens if you get rid of one of those 30 minute rides. If you are fresher for the threshold rides and it ramps them up. Like skip Friday’s 30 minute ride. Delete it.

I have deleted both 30 minute rides for this week and it didn’t effect the FTP prediction

I checked the volume of the plan and it recommended 5 workouts per week with 5 hours of ride time and 3 of them being hard intervals.

It resulted in a 50% increase to the prediction totalling 1 extra watt :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I was doing 3 hard days last year and ended up peaking a bit and carrying lots of fatigue. I seem to be progressing a lot more with 2 hard days a week instead. So maybe you are overdoing it a bit and it leads to some hard days not being as good as they would be with more recovery.

I’m also not a masters athlete and have been doing great on the master’s plan this winter. 2 days of intensity is plenty especially with how the AI is prescribing high Z2 (debatable tempo) work now.

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I started with 2 hard days and then was recommended by the AI to switch to 3

I’ve updated the plan to do 2 hard days per week, which is against the recommendation of the AI. I now have 1 threshold workout per week and 1 sweet spot, all 3 of my upcoming workouts are the exact same 2.5 difficulty level when I’m currently doing 3.4

It seems like the AI is bugged and won’t let me do any hard threshold workouts.

Maybe try switching from Mixed Intervals to Intervals? Just to see.

I think it’s giving me mixed because it’s the speciality phase. I assume I need to leave them as mixed intervals because of this.

Now I look back all of my threshold rides are exactly the same over unders, “three sisters” is the workout it’s had me doing.

You can do whatever you want. It’s not the boss of you! :wink:

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